If a belief in God is incompatible with logic than why is it that Christian groups?

Question

created the Trivium and Quadrivium (modern classical education) during the middle ages (Catholic Church), revived it in the American Colonies (Puritans) and are reviving it once again through the homeschooling movement and in Christian Colleges?

Is it logical for a group to create an education system that will destroy that group in the process?

The Trivium is the equivalent of Elementary and secondary school and teaches Grammar (factual information), Traditional logic and Rhetoric.

The Quadrivium is equivalent to the four years of college

I do not think that belief in God is incompatible with logic, but many others on Answers do.

Answer 1

So many people don't know that logic is required to graduate from most seminaries. I was a theology minor and I had to take 4 semesters...

Answer 2

Homeschool concept is built on the dissatisfaction with the public school system as a whole.
Many believers do tend to use this source as you can include your faith base along with the academic courses - which is completely contrary to the public school setting which teaches tolerance for only those things they wish students to be involved in with closemindedness to all other options whether it be religious beliefs, political concept and so forth.

Not correct to use a source to browbeat a person when do not have full information.

Besides homeschool setting was the original school format.

Home used to be the place where many things were taught, long before the school system became the supposed authority on all topics and the parents became lower standard of thought.

Perhaps if the school system spent as much time on educational process as they do tolerance for other matters, we would have children who could correctly speak english, read through a whole sentence without help(regardless of their grade), spell, do math and speak a sentence without "like, um and you know".
(Atheletes are the best examples of this.)
Push the kids to pass state tests but when it comes down to it, cannot begin to tell you more than a couple of paragraphs on the subject itself......what a shame!

Shame on you teachers too for not standing up more for your profession and the children you "teach" on any given day.

Answer 3

Logic is a purely formal tool, and is therefore only incompatible with whatever is denied within the premises it proceed from. In the middle ages,the Church controlled the premises, and the homeschools and colleges you mention are making the same attempt. Now, of course, we proceed from evidence, with an insistence on consistency, so certain forms of theism (for instance, Abrahamic) become indefensible, even when only using the texts of those very traditions. So it is only logic applied as it is today (uncoerced) that undermines the Abrahamic God.

Answer 4

And in these "trividum and quadrivium" institutions you stated, may the students question and openly debate christian beliefs? I'm betting the answer would be no.

Oh and Zero Cool is absolutely right. It is faith itself that is not logical (I wouldn't say illogical - rather faith is merely not supported by logic.). Faith is unconditional belief and cannot be penetrated by man's reason. Have you heard the phrase "the heart has reasons that reason does not know"? That describes faith.

Have you also noticed how selective the church uses reason. As in, they try to pressure "evolutionists" about more proof about evolution, but they don't feel obliged to give proof of their God?

Answer 5

Because even the most brilliant minds had to claim adherence to some church of some sort in order to avoid being shunned by... well, the world. It's not lying if they make you lie. They simply had to profess what they needed to profess to stay alive and work towards furthering human kind.

And yes, faith is incompatible with logic. Faith is belief in the validity or truth or existence of something ABSENT the support of proof and logic. If you have come to a conclusion by evidence or reason then faith is not required.

Answer 6

I think most Christian parents who homeschool are fed up with subjecting their children to the violence and rediculous guidelines like "No Child Left Behind" that this countries public schools have adopted. My girlfriend is a teacher who is no longer allowed to teach or use any type of discipline. Teachers are now being asked to purchase insurance to protect them from sexual misconduct charges. The public school system in this country is broken. They broke it when they took God out of school and allowed the students to bring guns instead. That's a really good reason to homeschool if you're an intelligent and dedicated enough parent to do it.

Answer 7

A belief in God only seems incompatible with logic to those that don't believe. A belief in God is not limited to logic, it requires much more.

"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

1 Corinthians 1:18

Answer 8

I believe that it is not incompatible with logic but it is very difficult to prove it too. I think God exisitance is an inner experience and everybody should try it by himself.

Answer 9

My friend, you are attempting to mix Human intelligence with Gods intelligence. Why would you do that? Do you honestly believe you can relate an answer to Gods presence with a logical explanation? Get off your mountain top my friend, there is an earthquake ahead!

Answer 10

A belief in God is not entirely incompatible with logic.
It is just not limited to logic.