The views of the SAS about the Americans direct from Iraq. Very interesting reading for everyone?

Question

Found this whilst reading on the internet and is not good for the Americans in Iraq. Seems there very unproffesional.

http://www.unknownnews.org/0603140312BenGriffin.html

Note the guy got to keep his distingueshed military career where as if the MOD thought he was talking rubbish then he would be in Colchester military prison now

its not the first time someone has refused to fight because of the Americans they are fighting along side though is it.

I dont think his fellow soldiers thought any worse of him. he had a distingueshed career and that has not changed.

Answer 1

well this guy is telling the truth the birt soilders have proven evidence that when a car bomb goes of the yanks shooot every thin tht moves regardless of what it is while the brits have been trained to show some restrain from pulling the trigger insome cases that why they dont have any abu grahib or massacres in most of the modern war so when you face the truth from one of ur allies u cant take it?

Answer 2

It has been a tradition of both the American and British (UK) army (all services) since WWI for the UK and the Indian Wars (USA) that "distinguished", active service combat soldiers be granted latitude in resigning.

It is an issue as what if many or all soldiers wanted to resign, quit a war.

This is why both armies have provisions for "Conscientious objectors". Equal is the term "for the good of the service" which implies "OK", you have point and we ask that you do leave.

The two men that historically come to mind are the American officer: Capt. Silas Soule at the "Sand Creek Massacre" of Native Americans in the 1860's and the very brave "pacifist" officer, poet Wilford Owen in WWI.

The American set "legal precedence" as to the duty of an American officer to disobey an "unlawful" order. It was an issue raised at the Courts martial of Lt. Calley during Vietnam. The Army in 1866 realized that it had to control "rouge" commanders, who violated army policy for self held "racist' beliefs. Lt Calley was at best a racist, perhaps a psycho, and his superior officers failed on every issue to prevent then deal with the mass murder of women and children.

Wilfred Edward Salter Owen, MC (March 18 1893 – November 4 1918. Was during the war a remarkable and capable officer, wounded seriously, he still maintained his role, he was harrassed when he suffered from "PTSD" but retained his sense of duty to his men and died for it. All the time writing some of the most powerful "antiwar" poetry in history.

Native Americans still honor the young officer: see the link below, it may really enlighten many. I live a couple hours away from the site.

Any Army "military" that "attacks" it best men, is doomed. Hence the often misunderstood practice of the military letting one of its best leave with honour.

Many an American officer and soldier left during Vietnam under very much the same situation as this SAS trooper.

Today it it also important to recall the passing of our President Ford. He had to deal with the dishonor of Pres Nixon, he did, he also led efforts to pardon, act with compassion at military deserters, after pardoning Nixon could one do less?

England, as America demands loyality yet part of loyality resides in what one sees, experiences and his or her faith and conviction.

I am not singing "I Vow To Thee My Country" here but close.

One has to respect convictions based upon experience and honour.

Out of loyality to his "Regiment" he acted, I have done as such and expect my men to do the same.

We all should be grateful that we also have soldiers like Owen,
Soulis and this youth.

They indicate what is the real situation.

Answer 3

Kinda funny that an SAS joe turned into a quitter. I wonder what the teams think of that?

Answer 4

Have you ever seen a Brit who respected people from other nations?

Besides - the British are the ones who allowed Al Sadr and his death squads to take over Basra.

Answer 5

Can't believe everything you read. My son is there....