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did he die one day short of his birth day?

census would have coincided with the highest festival that of leaving thier home town
the passover lamb preceeded
just as the same day as christ was giving up his skin of man to be rebirthed into eternal spirit ,be reborn again christ[ians?

2006-12-27 10:44:37 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Note: ECCLES.7:1 = "A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."

CHRISTMAS
Christmas isn't Jesus's birthdate; it was the birthday of the sun god. Scripture doesn't mention Jesus's birthdate or any christians celebrating His Birthday. The only birthday mentioned besides Pharoah is the heathen king Herod. "Christmas" means "mass of Christ"; the celebration coexisted in Rome before there was any in Jerusalem. The early Roman Church however did establish a pagan festival that (Jer.10) coexisted with Jesus's Birth and that was the birthday of the sun god. (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th ed., article: "Christmas"). The Catholic sources admit that Christmas didn't co-exist with the earliest festivals. Jesus wasn't born Christmas; even scripture makes this evident. "On the night of Jesus's birth, the shepherd's were still keeping watch over their flocks." (Luke 2:8). The rainy season in Ancient Israel began after the Feast of Tabernacles which generally is early October. In November, it would be cool and wet; the flocks from the pasture had already been brought and kept in winter quarters by the shepherds. This tells us the shepherds were no longer in the fields at night. Another peice of evidence is overlooked is in Luke 1:35-36; it tells us John the Baptist was born to Mary's cousin Elizabeth six months before Jesus. And as we look further in verse 5-17, we see Zacharias an elderly priest burning incense on the altar and then an angel appearing to him and telling him that he and his wife would have a son to prepare Christ's Way. We know however when this announcement was made by the angel because of Zacharias was "of the course of Abijah" Please look at 1Chron.24:1-19; it tells us that King David divided these priests into 24 "courses" that served in the temple by rotation. The Course of Abijah would be the 8th of the 24 courses which usually would occur around the end of May. Pentecost came the week after the 8th course served and he had to serve all 24 courses during the three festival seasons. So Zacharias came home approximately after the first week of June; in which John the Baptist was conceived around mid-June and 9 months later would be his birth. John Baptist's birth came around mid-March while Jesus's was around mid-September. Also notice every year people claim 3 wise men seen Jesus in a stable; is this really true? The Bible nowhere states "3 wise men" or "that the wise men visited Jesus in a stable". Read for yourself: (Matt.2:11); these Magi came from the east beyond the Euphrates River which in the 1st century was called the Parthian Empire (the eastern border of the Roman Empire). Several weeks after Jesus's birth, the Magi arrived in Jerusalem, the king's palace searching for Jesus. The "star" in the east led them to take their trip to Judea. After hearing about the timing of the "star's appearance" from the Magi; King Herod ordered the slaughter of all children two years and younger(Matt.2:16). When Jesus was 40 days old: His parents presented him in the temple (Luke 2:22)(Lev.12:2-4). After the Magi came, the family fled to Egypt. {Jesus six weeks old.}
WHEN WAS JESUS'S BIRTH?
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine33&item=1104261794
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1342393463049373547FazWzQ
Are these holidays dangerous to people?
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine9&item=1103909093

How Christmas came about. Is it related to Valentine's?
VALENTINE'S (CUPID)
CENTURIES BEFORE CHRIST, THE PAGAN ROMANS CELEBRATED FEBRUARY 15 & THE EVENING OF FEBRUARY 14 AS AN IDOLATROUS & SENSUOUS FESTIVAL IN HONOR OF LUPERCUS, THE "HUNTER OF WOLVES". THE ROMANS CALLED THE FESTIVAL "LUPERCALIA"; CUSTOM OF EXCHANGING VALENTINES & OTHER TRADITIONS TO HONOR LUPERCUS, THE "HUNTER OF WOLVES". THE ROMANS CALLED THE FESTIVAL "LUPERCALIA"; CUSTOM OF EXCHANGING VALENTINES AND OTHER TRADITIONS IN HONOR OF LUPERCUS (THE DEIFIED HERO-HUNTER OF ROME). IT WAS ALSO BONDED ANCIENTLY WITH THE PAGAN PRACTICE OF TEENAGERS "GOING STEADY" THAT USUALLY LED TO FORNICATION. TODAY, "GOING STEADY" IS A REBIRTH OF AN OLD CUSTOM THAT CAME FROM THE TOMAN FESTIVAL LUPERCALIA THAT WAS CELEBRATED IN FEBRUARY BY DRAWING YOUNG WOMEN'S NAMES OUT OF A BOX BY MEN AS CHANCE DIRECTED.-- ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA, ARTICLE, "ST. VALENTINE'S DAY."

WHEN CONSTANTINE MADE CHRISTIANITY THE OFFICIAL RELIGION OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE THERE WAS SOME TALK IN CHURCH CIRCLES OF DISGARDING THIS PAGAN FREE-FOR-ALL. BUT THE ROMAN CITIZENS WOULDN'T HEAR OF IT! SO IT WAS AGREED THAT THE HOLIDAY WOULD CONTINUE AS IT WAS, EXCEPT FOR THE MORE GROSLY SENSUAL OBSERVANCES. IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE REIGN OF POPE GELASIUS THAT THE HOLIDAY BECAME A "CHRISTIAN CUSTOM." AS FAR BACK AS 496, POPE GELASIUS CHANGED LUPERCALIA ON FEBRUARY 15 TO ST. VALENTINE'S ON FEBRUARY 14."--("CUSTOMS AND HOLIDAYS AROUND THE WORLD", PG.172 BY LAVINIA DOBLER)(BY HERMAN L. HOEH; THE PLAIN TRUTH;FEBRUARY 1966).

LUPERCUS BORNE THE NAME VALENTINE AMONG THE HEATHEN ROMANS. THE GREEKS CALLED HIM "PAN"; THE SEMITES "BAAL" ACCORDING TO THE CLASSICAL DICTIONARIES". IN THE BIBLE; "BAAL" IS MENTIONED OFTEN; ANOTHER NAME FOR HIM IS CALLED "NIMROD, "THE MIGHTY HUNTER" (GENESIS 10:9). ANOTHER NAME FOR NIMROD WAS "SANCTUS" OR "SANTA", MEANING "SAINT", COMMON TITLE FOR A HERO-GOD. NIMROD KNOWN AS BAAL OR sun god OF ANCIENT PAGANS WAS BORN AT THE WINTER SOLSTICE. IN ANCIENT TIMES THE SOLSTICE OCCURED ON JANUARY 6; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/epiphany THIS WAS HIS BIRTHDAY UNTIL THE SOLSTICE CHANGED & THEN IT WAS CELEBRATED ON DECEMBER 25. "IT WAS THE CUSTOM OF ANTIQUITY FOR THE MOTHER OF A MALE CHILD TO PRESENT HERSELF FOR PURIFICATION ON THE 14TH DAY AFTER THE DAY OF BIRTH. THE 14TH DAY AFTER JAN.6--NIMROD'S ORIGINAL BIRTHDATE---TAKES US TO FEB.15, THE CELEBRATION OF WHICH BEGAN ON THE EVENING OF FEB.14--THE LUPERCALIA OR ST. VALENTINE'S DAY." --(HERMAN L. HOEH) NIMROD'S OTHER NAME WAS "CUPID" WHICH MEANS "DESIRE"---ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA", ART., "CUPID".
Encyclopedia Americana, article, "St. Valentine's Day."
Encyclopedia Britannica, art., "cupid."
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1339760087049373547vWZntY
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/valentin.html
http://home.swbell.net/kelkay/valentines
http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/stvalen.htm
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EXODUS 20:3 = "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." It tells us in verse 5 = "not to bow to them nor serve them".

Here are the texts of gods that should not be worshipped:
EXOD.20:23; 32:3,4,8-10,19-23,30
DEUT.4:19,28-31; 11:26-28; 17:3
JER.10
EZEK.8:13-18
DAN. 3:1-18 (tried to make Daniel's friends to bow to the image, but they didn't)

New Testament Texts:
GAL.4:8-10 (pagan feasts are: New Year's, Valentine's-Cupid, Patrick's Day, Easter-Ishtar, Halloween, Christmas, Sunday-sun{from sunset Sat. to sunset Sunday = GEN.1:5), Monday-moon-{worship after sunset Sunday which would be Sunday evening(Sun.even to Mon.even)= considered to be Monday according to GEN.1:8}. Birthdays come from pagan origin too. = (only 2 birthdays are mentioned in Bible; they are: Pharoah and King Herod)
You can find most of things in sources like encyclopedias, history, etc. that tell you it's pagan or that it comes from pagan origin.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=Christmas--Pagan--sun%20god
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=mithras%2chorus%2c%20nimrod%20of%20Christmas
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=mithras%2c%20Horus%2c%20Nimrod--Christmas

Look at these websites:
MITHRAS (goddess of light)
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=mithras
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=PCTA,PCTA:2006-34,PCTA:en&q=mithras+god+of+light
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=PCTA%2CPCTA%3A2006-34%2CPCTA%3Aen&q=Mithras+born+Christmas&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=PCTA%2CPCTA%3A2006-34%2CPCTA%3Aen&q=Mithras--goddess+of+light&btnG=Search

HORUS (sun god)
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=horus
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=PCTA%2CPCTA%3A2006-34%2CPCTA%3Aen&q=horus&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=PCTA,PCTA:2006-34,PCTA:en&q=dec+25%2d%2dhorus
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=PCTA%2CPCTA%3A2006-34%2CPCTA%3Aen&q=Horus--bull%3F&btnG=Search
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=Horus--Valentine%27s
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=PCTA,PCTA:2006-34,PCTA:en&q=Horus+born+after+the+death+of+Nimrod
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=PCTA,PCTA:2006-34,PCTA:en&q=Horus+the+sun+god

Saturnalia (Mid-December; another name for Nimrod or Tammuz)
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=saturnalia+christmas+tree&rs=1&fr2=rs-top&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geuoKAwIhFuoYAeSBXNyoA?p=saturn+god+related+to+nimrod&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-&x=wrt
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&oe=ISO-8859-1&client=pub-6807258685122891&channel=9400434304&cof=FORID:1%3BGL:1%3BS:http://www.google.com%3BL:http://www.google.com/intl/en/logos/Logo_50wht.gif%3BLH:74%3BLW:163%3BLBGC:336699%3BLP:1%3BLC:%230000ff%3BVLC:%23663399%3BGFNT:%230000ff%3BGIMP:%230000ff%3BDIV:%23336699%3B&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=saturnlia&spell=1
http://www.google.com/custom?q=saturnlia&hl=en&lr=&oe=ISO-8859-1&client=pub-6807258685122891&channel=9400434304&cof=FORID:1%3BGL:1%3BS:http://www.google.com%3BL:http://www.google.com/intl/en/logos/Logo_50wht.gif%3BLH:74%3BLW:163%3BLBGC:336699%3BLP:1%3BLC:%230000ff%3BVLC:%23663399%3BGFNT:%230000ff%3BGIMP:%230000ff%3BDIV:%23336699%3B&start=10&sa=N
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geusU_wohF.QAADbJXNyoA?p=saturnalia+god+related+to+December+25&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-&x=wrt
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=saturnlia
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=saturnalia+god&rs=0&fr2=rs-top&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=saturnalia%20god%20related%20to%20tammuz
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geutnRwYhFJhkAZR9XNyoA?p=saturnalia+god+related+to+tammuz+and+nimrod&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-&x=wrt
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JESUS'S DEATH

**JESUS DIED WEDNESDAY APRIL 14, 31AD at 3pm.

A good foundation (1Tim.6:19) has solid ground evidence. The foundation should include 2Tim.3:16; Isaiah 28:9-10; 2Peter 1:19-21; 1Thess.5:20-21 & Ephes.5:9-10,13. To understand deeply--you must use these websites:
http://www.bbmhp.org/visaids/nt/crucweek.html
http://lcg.org/search/search.php?query=sunday&%24results_per_page=10&search=1

If you read Daniel 9:27; it says "he died in the middle of the week"; that would be Wednesday. This is followed by "3 days & 3 nights" = Matthew 12:40 which equals 1-24hr.day x 3days equals 72hrs. in grave. Next the Bible tells us it would be "after 3days and "not before = Matt.27:63-64 and Mark 8:31. It tells us in three days (John 2:19-21) and not after. The Bible also reminds us a day is 12hrs. not including the night(John 11:9-10). Remember also Gen.1:5 and Lev.23:32 tells us "evening to evening" is considered to be a day.

HEBREW CALENDAR-month of Abib or Nisan (APRIL 31AD)

Wednesday 14
Lord's Supper--Tues.Even
Put in grave Wed.Even
LEV.23:5--[14TH DAY=PASSOVER]
DAN.9:27--["DIED IN MIDST OF WEEK"]
JOHN 13:1; 18:39--[FEAST OF PASSOVER]
JOHN 19:14,31--[PREPARATION OF PASSOVER; NEXT DAY WAS A SABBATH HIGH DAY]
LUKE 22:13--[PASSOVER]
MATT.27:57--[EVENING CAME AND JOSEPH BEGGED THE BODY OF JESUS]
MARK 14:12; 15:42--[PREPARE TO EAT PASSOVER; THE DAY BEFORE THE SABBATH]]
LUKE 23:54--[SABBATH DREW ON]

Dictionary: Drew=to pull or drag. On=over & in contact with.

Thursday 15
Wed.Even= 1night
Thurs.Even=1day
Annual Sabbath
Feast of Unleavened Bread
NO WORK!
EXODUS 13:3,4,6,7--[NO LEAVENED BREAD; MONTH OF ABIB; ONLY EAT UNLEAVENED BREAD FOR 7 DAYS]
LEVITICUS 23:6-7--[15TH DAY; HOLY CONVOCATION]
MATT.27:63-64--[AFTER 3 DAYS]
**CLUE = MATT.26:5 --[NOT ON THE FEAST DAY]
ISAIAH 66:23

Friday 16
THURS. EVEN= 1 NIGHT
FRIDAY EVEN = 1DAY
PREPARATION DAY
MARK 16:1--[probably Thurs.Even--BOUGHT SPICES AFTER SABBATH]
LUKE 23:56--[PREPARED SPICES BEFORE WEEKLY SABBATH]
**NOTES--YOU HAVE TO BUY BEFORE YOU CAN PREPARE! ALSO IT TAKES ALL DAY TO PREPARE SPICES!

Saturday 17
FRIDAY EVEN=1 NIGHT
SAT.EVEN= JESUS ROSE! = 1 DAY
WEEKLY SABBATH
"SEVENTH DAY"= 7TH DAY
NO WORK!
GEN.2:2
EXOD.20:8-11
LEV.23:3
HEB.3:18-19; 4:1-11
MARK 2:27-28
REV.14:7,12
**NOTES= SABBATH IN ENCYCLOPAEDIA AMERICANA, VOL.24, PP.68-69 AND/OR DICTIONARY.

Sunday 18
SAT.EVEN
SUN.EVEN
"FIRST DAY"= 1ST DAY
GENESIS 1:5
MATT.28:1,6,13
MARK 16:6,9
LUKE 24:1,3,6
JOHN 20:1,19
**NOTE: COULDN'T OF BOUGHT BECAUSE MARY & MARY MAGDALENE WENT TO THE GRAVE AFTER THE SABBATH.
THE NEW AMERICAN ROGET'S COLLEGE THESAURUS--
DAWN=DARK, EVENING, TWILIGHT, ETC.

Now I know this is true because the MAJORITY(Matt.7:13) is always wrong. Also there's many clues that it wasn't a Friday crucifixion and a Sunday resurrection; look at 2Tim.2:18. But you will point out Mark 16:9 which says "Now when Jesus was risen[the perfect tense is correct here--he was already risen] early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene." Now the original Greek didn't have no punctuation. If the King James translators put a comma after the word "risen" and not after "week", this would make complete sense. The Centenary Translation renders it this way: "Now after his resurrection, early on the first day of the week he appeared first to Mary Magdalene
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2504347540049373547CSHBBj

2006-12-27 12:35:06 · answer #1 · answered by KNOWBIBLE 5 · 1 0

The idea that the birth of Jesus coincides with the exodus, i.e. the time of the Passover celebration, is possible, but not highly regarded. It was the death of Jesus that actually coincided most with this High Holy Day. Many "scholars" believe He might've been born during this same time, not because of similarities of the Passover and His birth, but rather, the similarities in beliefs regarding the "Easter" celebration. Many believe His birth happened around September-October, and that His conception was during the winter solstice...around December 25th. Although, the birth of Jesus cannot actually be proven to a specific date, it is widely known, and commonly believed by "scholars", the His birth could not have been December 25th.

2006-12-27 10:58:24 · answer #2 · answered by lilmsmooody 2 · 1 0

There isn't any proof it was at Easter. The first website says John the Baptist was born about the time of the Passover (Exodus anniversary), 15th day of the Hebrew month Nissan, year 3756 of the Jewish Calendar. Jesus was born 6 months later on the 15th day of Tishri 5 BC (huh?), year 3757, at the time of feast of Tabernacles, which is a major feast. It was held in Jerusalem, and for this reason nearby Bethlehem was booked out. The census was held at this time.
The second website below says 15th Tishri, 3757 was 16th September, 5 BC.

2006-12-27 11:55:53 · answer #3 · answered by Bad bus driving wolf 6 · 0 0

I am convinced Jesus , was born on the Day of Atonement,late Sept. _-earley August,I know We celebrate it Dec 25.

2006-12-27 10:50:50 · answer #4 · answered by section hand 6 · 1 0

jesus wasn't real!

2006-12-27 10:47:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

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