What do you think of the Bible verse quoted below?

Question

"But those enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." - Jesus, Luke 19:27 (Like Father, like Son???)

Answer 1

Lets look at the whole passage, that is a parable. Luke 19:11-27 "11While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.'

14"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'

15"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'

17" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'

18"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'

19"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'

20"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'

22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'

24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'

25" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'

26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

If you qotue something do it in context.

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Answer 2

This is the King James Version, and it is a misquote. Luke 19:27 actually says: "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring thither, and slay them before me."

Christians will have to explain this some other way. No doubt with the "out of context" dodge.

And then there is the round about hemming and hawing that enables some new context, involving similes and metaphors and "it's a figure of speech."

And the "cherry picking" ploy: "You can't just point to some one little sentence, everything is one whole thing that has to be grasped to get the meaning." You can't cherry pick. But they can. You can't just cherry pick this and that, but you can cherry pick these other things...so they end up cherry picking what can be cherry picked.

Answer 3

It is talking about Jesus'

The “man” is Jesus Christ. He was soon going to take a long trip “abroad,” back to his Father in heaven. Jesus was going to do this after his death and resurrection. There he was to sit down “at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet.” (Heb. 10:12, 13) It would be a long time until he received from his Father the command to take full kingdom power, but at that time he would first inspect and reward his “slaves.” He would expect them to be at harmony, attending to his ‘business,’ and not at odds with one another. After the inspection was completed he would oust his enemies from the earth, as shown at Luke 19:15-27.—Ps. 110:1-3.

Reasonable ending.

Answer 4

The account is found at Luke 19:11-27. Once, when his followers thought the kingdom of God was going to display itself instantly, Jesus gave them an illustration to correct their wrong ideas. Read the illustration. Jesus is the man who traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power and return. One of the things he subsequently does is have an accounting with those who profess to follow him. He had given them a work to do. There are many blessings that accompany this kingdom government of which Christ is king. But, as would normally be the case, one must meet certain requirements as citizens to avail themselves of these benefits.

It is no different in any government in any land. People must meet certain standards to be citizens, yes? They must follow the laws of that land, yes? They receive the protection and benefits from that government, yes? What happens if a citizen decides to rebel against that president, even though that president is legally the head of the government of that country? What do you call a citizen who is against the law of the land and against the head of that land? Traitor? What do you call his behavior? Treason? How is that punished in any land, under any government, on the face of this planet? Isn't it with death?

Hannah J Paul

Answer 5

Well, This is where context is important. Jesus is telling a story i.e. parable. He was not necessarily speaking about himself or God but relating a concept.

The best relationship here is If you believe God is a Tyrant, demanding and unforgiving and are foolish enough to hate God, God will respond in the manner that you expect.

Now then the message of the Gospel is that God is a God of grace, mercy, forgivness and limitless, unconditional love. If you believe God is this then God will respond to you in this manner.

God so wants to be part of your life that God will live up to the expetations you have for God. THere is an addage; Be careful what you wish for you might just get it. By believing in God's wrath and venegence you will experience it. By believing in God's love and forgiveness you will experience that. You choose how God will relate to you by what you believe about God.

Answer 6

I guess you have never heard that you are not supposed to take a verse out of it's context. You must read the entire chapter to get the meaning of the verse that you have quoted. You remind me of the story of the man who wanted to know what God wanted him to do, so he opened his Bible and pointed to a verse and read "And he went out and hanged himself". He thought, that can't be right, I'll try again. So he opened it and pointed to another verse which said, "Go and do likewise". He thought, I'll give it one more chance. So he opened the Bible, pointed, and read, "What thou doest, do quickly". He decided to become an atheist instead. This is the kind of thing that happens when one reads verses out of context. The Bible is not a hit and miss dart board. It must be studied with a mind and heart open to what God's will is.

Answer 7

5. (27) Judgment day comes for the master’s enemies.

"But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me."

a. But bring here those enemies of mine: The servants all had to answer for their work in the master’s absence, but at least none of them were guilty of treason. Now the master deals with his enemies, the rebellious citizens mentioned in Luke 19:14, who hated him and said, "We will not have this man to reign over us."

i. Who did not want me to reign over them: They could try and deny the reign of the master as much as they pleased, but it would get them nowhere. He would rule over them one way or another.

b. And slay them before me: The servants of the master each had to answer to him, but so did his enemies. They met with certain, final judgment.

c. The application is clear: do you want Jesus to reign over you? He will, one way or another. And if you are already His servant, are you doing the business He told you to do?

i. Slay them before me seems so severe; we might even think that Jesus compels us to a life or death decision. And indeed He does.

Answer 8

In this passage Jesus is probably reffering, not to worldly enemies, but to the demons and sins that have polluted the world. Jesus's message is entirely nonviolent, and so he was probably only wishing to "slay" symbolically, not with actual weapons. Also, get rid of your king james bible, that thing is impossible to understand.

Answer 9

Honey, you can't just grab once sentence out of a paragraph, read it to us, and expect us to make a judgement based on the words you chose to try and make a point of...it doesn't work that way. If you want to make a point, give us all the facts. Include all the sentences in that paragraph and have us form our own conclusion. Anything less than that is only ignorance on your part.

Answer 10

This verse is a quote of the king that Jesus is telling about. It is NOT what Jesus wants to happen to people.

Answer 11

Jesus was talking about the parables of the talents.Everybody is given a talent by god, and its what you do with it that god will judge,if you decide not to be a player in gods world,go to another world,where you think there are no laws.