If I was a god I would end suffering. Would you? Would God?

Question

I don't think anybody should be able to will people to suffer. All of the other stuff can stay intact.

I was told that I cannot understand why god allows suffering. No, I do understand it but I don't agree with it.

Answer 1

I agree with you... There is no God...

Answer 2

No

Why would anyone want to impose an artificially created universe.

OK, we could do it right now if we doped everyone up on Librum, for example. 30 Mgs every 6 hours would make everyone plascid.

Prozac. Even better. Let's put EVEYRONE on PROZAC.

Let's put it in the water so know one knows what we are doing.

Remember that Star Trek episode. The World of Landru!

That's what you're talking about.

Landru eases all pains.

Pod people! No more tears!

Yes, let's replace humans with Pods.

See what happens when you get a God complex

Power corrupts and absoltue power corrupts absolutely.

World full of Dianne Wiest's!

Prozac, now available without a prescription!

Answer 3

“God is not in houses of wood and stone, he is in the hearts of men” …Follow your heart and see where it leads you…

The difference between cats and dogs…
A dog thinks… You love me, you feed me, you take care of me, you must be God.
A cat thinks… You love me, you feed me, you take care of me, I must be God.
…Again Man has it wrong!

God does not hurt us, we hurt ourselves and others. He gave us our rules and it is up to us to follow them.

God’s Law is simple… The Ten Commandments “That no one may find in the plea of ignorance a shadow of excuse.” This is not a long list, just ten simple rules.

Triage… Save those who can be saved.

The World is falling apart anyway, Global Warming, Murder, Greed, Over Population, Homelessness, Poverty… even without the Wraith how long could we last before destroying ourselves?

“Maybe there's a God above and all I ever learned from love was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you. And it's not a cry you can hear at night, it's not somebody who's seen the light … It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah”

The Wraith of God - Friday, February 13, 2009 at 11:31pm UTC = 666666

Nobody knows the date and I would be a fool to claim that I do, only God knows this information anything else would be sheer speculation. However I believe I have found the exact day and time. All numbers add up… As they say do the math.

What are the odds… That one particular day would equal Six Sixes, fall on a Friday the 13th and the Unix time would reach 1234567890 a number where the end is where the beginning is?


The End of Days… Friday, February 13, 2009 -A date that seems totally random is really not random at all.

The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come? "Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Daniel 9:26, 27 "Its end will come with a flood." …The new reign (rain) marked by Katrina began in August 2005, the 3 ½ years (the last three and one-half years of the great tribulation) brings us to February 2009.

The End of Days… Friday, February 13, 2009 at 11:31pm UTC = 666666

- 1967 Six-Day War assured national survival and 42 months of travail (in Revelation 11:2-3) signifies 42 years after 1967, yielding 2009.

- Our calendar was changed in 1582,by the Pope, we are 11 years a head of time right now.

- So the year 2009 is really 1998

Note that 1998 = 666 + 666 + 666. Not only that, but if we set A=3, B=6, C=9, etc., we find, amazingly, that NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT = 666

And his number is Six hundred threescore and six … Note: Not 6, 6, 6, but actually 600, 60, 6

Why Friday, February 13th?

Friday the 13th being associated with bad luck. Jesus was crucified on a Friday and betrayed by the 13th Apostle.(Jesus an Apostle of God plus 12 equals 13 in total, Judas was the 13th)

Friday is the 6th day and 2/13 = 6 and since we now know 2009 is really 1998 = 666. Giving us a total of 66666

On February 13, 2009 - A celebration is expected as the Unix time number reaches 1234567890 seconds at 23:31:30 UTC. (Once in a lifetime occurrence!)

If we don’t count seconds, because the clock has not quite reached 23:32 and is still officially at 23:31 = 11:31pm = 6

That would mean when Unix time reaches 1234567890 seconds on Friday, February 13, 2009 (1998) at 11:31pm UTC = 666666 a total of six sixes.

The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come? "Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

1234567890 … The End is just a New Beginning


Soon the clock will reach 1,234,567,890 seconds UTC. Is this the correct day? Only time will tell!

“…so cometh as a thief in the night” 11:31pm UTC

Scripture states the number of his name plainly so none will miss it: 666. When the time comes for this prophecy to be fulfilled, the meaning of this name will be completely plain to the wise.


We can find original text written in Greek, Latin as well as Hebrew. The Greek alphabet was assigned numerical values (The X gives the Z sound of Xylophone) X (=Chi) 600; Xi (shaped like a curled capital E) 60 and S (Sigma) 6. (Although Sigma is no longer used, it was) Thus 600, 60 and 6 spells XES, the Greek spelling for Zeus. In the KJV translation - where the name of the prophet Elisha (meaning 'My God is Saviour') has been retained in the paganised form 'Eliseus' (My god is Zeus). In similar fashion, the Name of the Hebrew Messiah YAHU'SHUAH (meaning 'YAHU is Saviour') has been paganised to read 'JeZeus', ('God is Zeus') which later became 'Jesus' in the English language (pronounced 'Jezus').

600 (X), 60 (Xi,=E), 6 (S) the number of his name, clearly spells XES the original Greek spelling for ZEUS.

“…and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world”

Again, this is only speculation… But what are the odds

That the flood Katrina August 2005 the start of the last three and one-half years of the great tribulation brings us to February 2009 and the1967 Six-Day War assured signifies 42 years after 1967 also yielding 2009.

That one particular day would equal Six Sixes, fall on a Friday the 13th and the Unix time would reach 1234567890 a number where the end is where the beginning is?

Unix time reached 1,234,567,890 seconds on this day and according to Jesus remarks when his disiples asked how their end would come, he said the end would be where the beginning is. This number containes all numbers 1-9 but ends not starts with a 0.

P.S.
More in-depth details regarding the Reason why the Church changed the Calendar and the Birth of Christ….

Pope Gregory XIII decreed that all Catholic countries would drop the 10 days that had been October 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14, go straight from October 4 to 15, and henceforth omit the leap years in century years except those divisible by 400. adopted the new Gregorian calendar in 1582. By the late 1600s, the Swedes were still using the old Julian calendar, but they had begun to think that maybe they should join Protestant Germany and the other Scandinavian countries in a turn-of-the-century conversion to the Gregorian. About then, however, someone in Sweden had the brilliant idea that if they merely skipped the next 11 leap years, they wouldn’t have to drop 10 days all at once, and they’d be fully converted to the Gregorian calendar by 1740. Thus we are 11 years ahead of schedule…

In 46BC, when the Roman "Julian" calendar was adopted, December 24th. was the shortest day of the year. Therefore, December 25th. was the first day of the year that the days started to get longer. Thus, the REBIRTH (Annual Birthday) of the SUN. In 1582 Catholic Pope Gregory 13th caused the present day "Gregorian" calendar to be adopted. By this time the shortest day of the year on the Julian calendar had shifted 10 days to the 15th of December, but the original December 25th "Birthdate" was retained for all Sun gods.

The Church spread the word of Jesus to the Celtics. The day the church celebrates the birth of Jesus was changed to a pagan holy day of the Celtics to convert more followers. Jesus was said to be born in the Spring.

Answer 4

Would I?
I'm not sure I would, to be honest - we learn more by facing adversity, by suffering harship, than we learn by being happy and comfortable. It sucks to do, of course, but it's an engine of mental and spiritual expansion. If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't appreciate the good times, all the benefits our lies have. We'd simply grow indolent and dull.

So I think some people have waaaay more than their fair shair of suffering? Hell yes. Would I redress the balance if I was a god? You better believe it. Would "God" do that much? There are plenty of cases where human beings get inbetween other people and suffering, help them heal, help them through. If you believe in a "God", it's an easy step to take to say that this is "His way" of helping out. But to eradicate the capacity of the human race to will suffering on each other is to make slaves of us all, forbidden from accepting the animalistic sides of our nature, whereas the way to evolve our species is to accept what we are - creatures full of potential - and make conscious choices to use that potential in a way that makes positive, not negative, impacts on our fellow human beings, our fellow planet-sharers and the Earth itself.

Answer 5

God will end the suffering and we (those who follow Him) will be able to look back on it and understand at lleast somewhat better than we do now . (Now we look through a glass darkly I Cor 13). It is something like a small child who is being held down as he struggles against a needed medical procedure. Someday, he will understand why his parents allowed that to happen, but he certainly does not understand it now.

Answer 6

As much i like to end the pain and suffering but i have to disagree..
first, God gave us free will, free will has cause us to create pain and suffering to other gods creature.. God also ask to help our brother and sisters but some of us refuse to do that.. that mean to stop the suffering, God have to force us to be good.. no more free will..

Second, pain and suffering sometimes teach us the lesson of life.. have you ever see a rich brat that does not know any meaning of hardship? Sometimes, it is good to remind yourself about reality..

Answer 7

If you want an explanation from the Judaic viewpoint there are books I could recommend.

I am not saying you will agree with the author I am just saying it will give you more of a answer then being told that you cannot understand it.

Answer 8

i dont think God simply allows suffering ...
we were created , given the means to survive , given free will ... and put here on earth
what we do here is down to us without the interferance from anyone and that includes God
we have the means to learn , to understand how we work , and if we havent learned how to stop suffering or at least ease suffering or learn from that suffering to benefit future generations... then it is our fault

Answer 9

No you don't understand - otherwise you would not will the end of suffering if you could.

To end all suffering would destroy our freewill - for it is through freewill that we caused our suffer (God did not cause it).

~ Eric Putkonen

Answer 10

That is a good questions, many people wonder why there are so many tragedys and so much suffering. People of various religions have gone to their religious leaders and teachers to ask why there is so much suffering. Often, the response is that suffering is God’s will and that he long ago determined everything that would ever happen, including tragic events. Many are told that God’s ways are mysterious or that he brings death upon people—even children—so that he can have them in heaven with him. Though, Jehovah God never causes what is bad. The Bible says: “Far be it from the true God to act wickedly, and the Almighty to act unjustly!”—Job 34:10.

Do you know why people make the mistake of blaming God for all the suffering in the world? In many cases, they blame Almighty God because they think that he is the real ruler of this world. They do not know a simple but important truth that the Bible teaches. The real ruler of this world is Satan the Devil.

The Bible clearly states: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) When you think about it, does that not make sense? This world reflects the personality of the invisible spirit creature who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Revelation 12:9) Satan is hateful, deceptive, and cruel. So the world, under his influence, is full of hatred, deceit, and cruelty. That is one reason why there is so much suffering.

A second reason why there is so much suffering is that, mankind has been imperfect and sinful ever since the rebellion in the garden of Eden. Sinful humans tend to struggle for dominance, and this results in wars, oppression, and suffering. (Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9) A third reason for suffering is “time and unforeseen occurrence.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11) In a world without Jehovah as a protective Ruler, people may suffer because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is comforting for us to know that God does not cause suffering. He is not responsible for the wars, the crimes, the oppression, or even the natural disasters that cause people to suffer. Still, we need to know, Why does Jehovah allow all this suffering? If he is the Almighty, he has the power to stop it. Why, then, does he hold back? The loving God that we have come to know must have a good reason.—1 John 4:8.

To find out why God allows suffering, we need to think back to the time when suffering began. When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah, an important question was raised. Satan did not call into question Jehovah’s power. Even Satan knows that there is no limit to Jehovah’s power. Rather, Satan questioned Jehovah’s right to rule. By calling God a liar who withholds good from his subjects, Satan charged that Jehovah is a bad ruler. (Genesis 3:2-5) Satan implied that mankind would be better off without God’s rulership. This was an attack on Jehovah’s sovereignty, his right to rule.

Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: “We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.” How could Jehovah settle that issue? How could he teach all intelligent creatures that the rebels were wrong and that his way truly is best? Someone might say that God should simply have destroyed the rebels and made a fresh start. But Jehovah had stated his purpose to fill the earth with the offspring of Adam and Eve, and he wanted them to live in an earthly paradise. (Genesis 1:28) Jehovah always fulfills his purposes. (Isaiah 55:10, 11) Besides that, getting rid of the rebels in Eden would not have answered the question that had been raised regarding Jehovah’s right to rule.

Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.

Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satan’s guidance.

The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honesthearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: “I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.


Why, though, has Jehovah allowed suffering to go on for so long? And why does he not prevent bad things from happening? Well, consider two things that the teacher in our illustration would not do. First, he would not stop the rebel student from presenting his case. Second, the teacher would not help the rebel to make his case. Similarly, consider two things that Jehovah has determined not to do. First, he has not stopped Satan and those who side with him from trying to prove that they are right. Allowing time to pass has thus been necessary. In the thousands of years of human history, mankind has been able to try every form of self-rule, or human government. Mankind has made some advances in science and other fields, but injustice, poverty, crime, and war have grown ever worse. Human rule has now been shown to be a failure.

Second, Jehovah has not helped Satan to rule this world. If God were to prevent horrible crimes, for instance, would he not, in effect, be supporting the case of the rebels? Would God not be making people think that perhaps humans can govern themselves without disastrous results? If Jehovah were to act in that way, he would become party to a lie. However, “it is impossible for God to lie.”—Hebrews 6:18.

What, though, about all the harm that has been done during the long rebellion against God? We do well to remember that Jehovah is almighty. Therefore, he can and will undo the effects of mankind’s suffering. The ruining of our planet will be undone by the turning of the earth into Paradise. The effects of sin will be removed through faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice, and the effects of death will be reversed by means of the resurrection. God will thus use Jesus “to break up the works of the Devil.” (1 John 3:8) Jehovah will bring all of this about at just the right time. We can be glad that he has not acted sooner, for his patience has given us the opportunity to learn the truth and to serve him. (2 Peter 3:9, 10) Meanwhile, God has been actively seeking sincere worshipers and helping them to endure any suffering that may come upon them in this troubled world.—John 4:23; 1 Corinthians 10:13.

For more information www.watchtower.org

Answer 11

One day you will understand why suffering is needed.