Darwin's statement
"Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory. (The Origin of Species)" In his book where he was talking about evolution. Okay now let's jump to about 140 years after that book was written to the year 1999 when Prof Steve Jones of University College London published an updated version of Darwin’s Origin of Species. The fossil record still posed the same problem. Here is his quote "The fossil record - in defiance of Darwin's whole idea of gradual change - often makes great leaps from one form to the next. Far from the display of intermediates to be expected from slow advance through natural selection many species appear without warning, persist in fixed form and disappear, leaving no descendants. Geology assuredly does not reveal any finely graduated organic chain, and this is the most obvious and gravest objection."
2006-12-26
18:06:43
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Darwin isn't even sure about evoultion, he even said about the human eye
“To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd.”
"I can see no way it could evolve bit by bit."
2006-12-26
18:16:00 ·
update #1
Like I said before his book was updated in 1999 with still the same quotation by a different scientist. 1999 is not that long ago. And if they found fossils where are the museums showing them? and why is evolution still considered a theory?
2006-12-26
18:20:05 ·
update #2
Like I said, where are the fossils? No one has told me yet?
2006-12-26
18:23:32 ·
update #3
For the man who sent me a list on different fossils that ere supposedly linking us, um no! I looked at wikepedia them looked up fossils that it actually named and read about them. this is what it said about them in other scientific studies.
"You might even call it a transitional fossil." Hardly, the hard core evidence I was looking for. It's speculation, not a fact.
2006-12-27
01:57:39 ·
update #4
In my backyard. About 6 feet down where the limestone starts. Its full of fossils from when my area was covered by the sea millions of years ago.
2006-12-26 18:07:59
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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You are quote mining, my dear
(ie quoting something out of context in a manner that appears to make a point opposite to the one the person was actually making)
What Jones was referring to is what Stephen J Gould called "punctuated equilibrium". It is an idea that fits well within current evolutionary thinking and does not refute Darwinism...or rather neo-darwinism (We have refine the theory a little in 150 years...Darwin after all was unaware of DNA etc)
It really means that there are apparent leaps. Most species stabilize in their niche, at some point, a small group may become separated from the original group and it is the smaller group, with less genetic variability, subject to enviromental stressors that evolve through natural selection to become new species. Because of the relatatively low numbers, there are few or no examples of transitions, so when they are reintroduced and compete successfully with their ancestors, they appear to have suddenly arrived. (with apologies to Richard Dawkins who has written entire books on this topic)
Note that we do also have lots of evidence of transitional fossils for many groups of animals. Anti-evolutionists are always demanding fossil evidence and missing links...then when science provides that, they want the missing link between the missing links !!
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BENDER R has got it wrong in more ways than can be listed.
WATCHERD. Anybody that cites Dr Dino as a credible source of information can be safely ignored.
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When the 1999 edition was published of Origin of Species....of course they didn't change any of Darwins original words or ideas. It is an original book!!! Do they change or update "A Tale of Two Cities" every time a new edition is printed??
There has been much scientific advancement since Darwin thought of the original theory, and the details of how natural selection works have been developed now that we know about genes, DNA, mutation rates etc.
2006-12-26 18:15:20
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answered by Anonymous
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That's correct, Moiraes Fate. Darwin died in 1882. As far as the fossil record is concerned, he had little to go on. But in the past 120 years, there has been a wealth of discovery. If he was alive today, he would most certainly not write the same thing.
2006-12-26 18:17:52
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answered by homo erectus 3
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Darwin died in 1882. What makes you think he knew everything there is to know? You live almost 120 years later. Do you know everything? Does anyone? No? Thought not.
Just because Darwin said they didn't know then, doesn't mean scientists don't know now.
There are plenty of missing links in the archaeological record. It does show a gradual change.
Please google evolution, focusing on human evolution, and you'll learn how.
homo erectus, I agree with you. In this day and age, he'd understand genetics in a detailed way he never could have understood it in the 1800's and he'd most definately not write the same thing.
its why I think this is foolish. For some reason, Christians seem to think we already know all there is to know.
1. A scientific theory is not the same as a regular person theory. You apparently need to study up on science.
2. The fossils exist because I've seen them in my university Archaeology class. I can't show you them because how in the living hell am I going to show you REAL things over the internet? Am I going to somehow magically turn real skulls into bits of energy and send them through the screen to you?
YOU need to go on the internet and do what you've been told. Bloody google it.
I'm not doing your research for you because just because your too lazy to do it on your own.
I'm also not going to spend the next 2 years typing up information on the computer to teach you biology, geology, physics and chemistry that you SHOULD have learned in high school.
Go learn it yourself.
2006-12-26 18:11:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh wow! You're so right! The nobel prize for 2007 is so totally yours!
Not quite. As another poster has explained, you're taking the quotations out of context and misinterpreting them. That's a problem on your part, and not on the theory of evolution.
2006-12-26 18:24:03
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answered by Michael 5
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Yes and you know why don't you. Your God keeps stealing our missing links to make women out of. Now we will never find that rib bone and if we do it will be part of a woman. idiots! Archaeologist have a graduated chain to prove without a doubt that evolution did occur and continues to occur. All accredited scientist agrees. Only you idiot Christians and creationist don't have the brains to grasp truth and wish to live in a world of fantasy Gods and Devils.
2006-12-26 18:29:14
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answered by Anonymous
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There is no fossil evidence of Evolution. There is no proof of Evolution happening in the past or the present. If Evolution actually happened then we should see evidence of it. But yet there is none.
Based on fossils found in southern China and in the Burgess Shale deposits of the Canadian Rockies, biologists know that nearly all the animal phyla (more than 70) known to exist throughout the earth’s history appeared essentially at once about 540 million years ago.2 (Phyla are the categories in the biological classification hierarchy that refer to an organism’s body plan, or architectural make-up.)
This event, known as the Cambrian “Explosion”, occurred over an extremely narrow window of geological time (~5-10 million years based on western scientific literature and less than 3 million years based on Chinese scientific literature).3 Since then, arguably no new animal phyla have appeared. In fact, about 40 animal phyla have disappeared since that time.
To put it bluntly...Life appeared all of a sudden in a very short time frame. The Cambrian Explosion has long been an enigma for biology.6 The more we learn about the introduction of complex animals on earth, the more puzzling the Cambrian event becomes for evolutionary biologists. The explosive appearance of the nearly all possible skeletal designs in the Cambrian fauna defies a natural process explanation. Yet, this is exactly what one would expect to see in the fossil record if the God of the Bible were responsible for the creation of animal life on earth.
2006-12-26 18:13:21
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answered by Darktania 5
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The creation of a fossil is a product of random chance and a very tiny random chance at that.
2006-12-26 18:10:25
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answered by Greg P 5
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darwin lived when technology was very primitive. today there is ample proof that organisms gradualy evolved with many transitional fossils.
2006-12-26 18:19:36
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answered by Anonymous
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Fossils are fossils.
but nothing comes out of nothing
and life comes out of life...
2006-12-26 18:11:25
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answered by Antares 6
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