15 rounds in their prime. I would've cut the Klitschkos some slack but they're "all time greats" in some folks eyes so they should be able to 15 rounds.
2006-12-26 10:06:24 · 17 answers · asked by Brent 5 in Sports ➔ Boxing
a_p_ - Rephrase my question? Answer the question as it is without trying to editorialize it. Frazier inside of 4 rounds against either brother, that's my opinion. It's your choice whether to answer my questions or not, believe me I will not be offended.
2006-12-27 01:32:09 · update #1
Smokin Joe is one of the Greatest of all time and went in against numerous great fighters in his time and the only two people to beat him are the number 1 and 2 ever in the Heavyweight division in Ali and Foreman, so for these people to think that either of the two brothers could get in the ring with Joe is a joke. I would cut Vitali a little bit of slack and say that he might of developed into a great fighter but now i suppose we will never know and as for Wlad he has shown me nothing yet to make me think that he could be talked about in the same breath as Frazier. I would say Vitali might last a little longer than Wlad maybe until the 7th or 8th but Wlad would get put away by a left hook very early on, he has been put away early by some very average fighters so Smokin Joe wouldnt take long to drop one on his glass jaw.
2006-12-31 10:15:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Brent, against Vitali, as good as he was, there is nothing that "Smokin" Joe could do. You want to know why? 202 cm - 182 cm = 20 cm. That's why. There is no way he would have been able to overcome that size and reach disadvantage and one punch knock out against a man of Vitali's skills and most of all resilience is out of the question.
Against Wladimir he would also have an extremely up hill battle. He would somehow have had to find the way past the same disadvantages get past that jab without leaving Wladimir with the opportunity to put the big right straight through. If he was able to get inside, Joe would then have good chance of mixing it up and taking him out, because, even though more technical, Wladimir is nowhere near as resilient as his brother and that would make a huge difference here.
I must say that you really should rephrase your question. Vitali and Wladimir are brothers and about the same size. But other then that they have almost nothing else in common in the ring. Their styles and approach are completely different and you definitely should have taken that into consideration here man, unless your question was rhetorical of course, and intention only to disrespect them (which is probably most likely the case).
One more thing man, even though you have a lot of knowledge of this sport and I have mostly enjoyed discussing stuff with you, I won't answer any of your questions or comment any of your statements ever again because you are clearly unwilling to get past your bias towards European fighters and base your opinions on legitimate arguments when they are concerned. You rather choose to make absolutely no valid point and just disrespect them with your answers. But that's OK. It's your thing really.
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Well, well our expert Smitty is capable of trolling after all. Didn't see this one coming, I must admit. Pipe down chump, this doesn't concern you. What I have written to Brent was not meant as an insult and you have no business getting involved here.
2006-12-26 11:01:06 · answer #2 · answered by balancepriest 5 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Hey Brent! The Klitschko brothers are decent enough fighters I guess and maybe in Frazier, Ali, and Foreman's time may have been a top 10 contender but neither had the mobility or skill level to have beaten Frazier. The brother's have decent power but neither has a great chin, neither has a great fighting heart especially when they get hurt or good enough boxing ability or jab to keep Frazier from unloading those great left hooks to the body and head and Frazier would have won in about 9-10 rounds with either. I'm not sure either brother would have beaten Ron Lyle or Mac Foster. As you well know, those guys in the 70's could really fight Brent.
2006-12-26 15:55:01 · answer #3 · answered by toughguy2 7 · 3⤊ 4⤋
Are you kidding me? Frazier would smoke both these bums inside of 5 rounds! Yeah, they have the height and reach against Frazier, but who didn't? Frazier was one of the shortest heavyweight champs ever. There is no way these guys could stand up to the relentless pressure that Frazier would put on them for to long. And Wladimir, with that weak chin of his, he'd be lucky to last 2 rounds against what is probably the best left hook of all time. Did we forget he was starched by Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders and went down 3 times against Samuel Peter? Now that he beat Chris Byrd (who sucks big time in my opinion) and Calvin Brock (overrated) people are acting like this guy is the second coming of Ali! Sorry folks, the Klitschko's are not on Frazier's level!
2006-12-26 20:42:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
Look bro. Get over it. The Klitschko brothers have skill.....Look at some of Vitali's KOs, he is 6 8 and punches like a ww.....Both Klitschko's would beat Joe Frazier.
2006-12-26 14:51:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
Unfortunately Joe would be at a big disadvantage. The Klitschko's in a couple.
2006-12-26 11:17:13 · answer #6 · answered by Allen 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
joe in three the klitschkos would never survive against a warrior like joe hell joe woulda beat lennox lewis on his *** to
2007-01-01 14:10:34 · answer #7 · answered by derek f 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Joe in 7 rounds
2006-12-26 12:27:11 · answer #8 · answered by swtladyiam T 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Dont listen to those answers claiming "smoking" (lol) joe frazier will beat any of the renowned Klitschko brothers. Joe fought in an era rampant with corruption and shady promoting. Keep in mind the power of the mob during Joe's era. It would be unfair to really compare a fighter from this time to todays fighters.
Most american boxing fans are closet racists, mad that europeans are dominating the sport. Remember, it is easier for these people to claim the HW division is dead than to admit Europe is producing better fighters. I truly feel sorry for people who find racisim in every facet of life....but hey what can I do? Just dont listen to any of these people.
Watch Vitali's fights and KO's on Youtube. in particular vitali's 4 punch KO over Williams. After you see it, name one heavyweight that ever threw punches like that. Vitali would most def. KO frazier. Wlad would probably win a UD.
2006-12-26 22:05:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 6⤋
The better Klitschko is learning some skills,
but Joe would smoke him. He was the best
at walking a guy down and getting inside.
Everybody he fought was taller than him....
2006-12-26 13:38:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋