Difference between Atheistic Luciferianism and Atheistic Satanism?

Question

Im aware that a Luciferian can technically be called a Satanist, but "Satanism" and "Luciferianism" are different beliefs. Maybe someone who is more knowledgable on these beliefs can help me.

What are some main differences between Atheistic Luciferianism and Atheistic Satanism? Such as, a main difference between Judaism and Christianity is that Jews dont believe was the messiah.

Im asking for knowledgable people only to answer, if you dont know what Luciferianism or Satanism is, please, shut up and keep your ignorance to yourself.

It seems my "please stay away ignorant people" plea didnt work.

Since there was only 1 semi-intelligent answer thus far, I'd suggest the rest of you read up on what Satanism actually is before making judgemental calls out of ignorance.

I guess people dont know what "philosophical" religions like Buddhism, Satanism, etc. are.

Thank you the those fo you who actually know what you're talking about. That cleared quite a bit up.

If you never ask you never know!

Answer 1

Satanism
Satanism is a term encompassing many different religious and philosophical paths which have among them certain commonalities, being:

Admiration of Satan as a (usually non-Biblical) life-positive rolemodel
Belief in the supremecy of the here-now life
Belief in the autonomy and, in turn, responsibility of each human being
Seeking of continual self-improvement and self-fulfillment
Exaltment of knowledge and wisdom as a means to those ends.
Two additional points which are widely shared but not universal among the Satanic paths:

Belief that mankind is an animal and not innately superior to nor more special than any other animal
Belief in the reality and efficacy of magick and/or prayer


Luciferianism
A religion or philosophy which focuses on the figure of Lucifer either superior to, or in lieu of, the figure of Satan. Depending on who one asks, Luciferianism is either a specialized sub-type of Satanism or a distinct, if very similar, religion. In all types of Luciferianism that I am aware of, Lucifer and Satan are seen as distinct individuals.

These are the definitions of Luciferianism and Satanism as defined by the dictionary of Satanic terminology.

Atheism is to not believe in God and one cannot believe in Lucifier or Satan if one does not believe in God. So in terms of Atheistic Satanists or Atheistic Luciferians they are atheists. They don't believe that a personal god or a personal Christian Satan exists. Satan is used as metaphor for Self, particularly the self-indulgent Self.

Answer 2

LaVeyan Satanism, the form most people are familiar with, is atheistic. There are forms of theistic Satanism, but they are few and far between, and usually greatly decried by LaVeyan Satanists. (And for the rest of this answer, if I refer to Satanism, assume I'm talking about the LaVeyan variety.)

Atheistic Luciferianism...now, things get tricky there. The big difference between Luciferianism and Satanism, to begin with...Luciferianism gets more mystical and is influenced by the Gnostics. Though magic is an optional part of both paths, Luciferianism tends to employ it more, and in different ways. And Luciferians are far more likely to be theistic, though not all acknowledge Satan and Lucifer as the same being, instead seeing Satan as a myth and Lucifer in his role of Morningstar and Light-Bringer, and the one who brought the knowledge of good and evil to mankind--and here's your Gnostic influence, though one easily found in any Bible--so we could be as gods. Luciferians are much closer to the Prometheus myth than to any Judeo-Christian ideas.

So, atheistic Luciferians? Here you've got a group that, rather than venerating man as the highest acheivement in and of himself as a Satanist would, venerates knowledge and its pursuit as the highest achievement any man could strive for. Hence more mystical, hence the more common use of magic. It has more in common with Thelema and Hermeticism than anything else, really.

Answer 3

Lucifer was not equated with Satan until the AD 4th century and it appears that the initial religions based on lucifer were just based on this highest of angels being a light bearer and so on. From my understanding Satanists, in contrast, don't actually believe in Satan... i.e. they use "satan" simply as a symbol. to accept that satan is real is to also accept that christianity is real. they generally beleive that none of them are real and satan represents the part of the human nature that says "GO, do it, whatever makes you feel good..." there are also a lot of rituals and incantations and what not that are wrapped around sex. the idea is to reject christianity (mostly catholicism, as that is what their rituals mostly emulate). Both ideologies here (Luciferianism, and Satanism) seem to have a fundamental commonality in that they both like the idea of doing what it is that you want.

Answer 4

well luciferianism can be considered satanism however luciferians don't accept lucifer as the devil as they see lucifer as the way he was in heaven as the lightbearer and morning star whereas satanism well anton lavey's satanism teaches that satan is a force and that they themselves are god and are there own redeemer while most satanists worship satan in his highest form set abominae aka the antichrist according to christianity

Answer 5

The Luciferians wear goatskin leggings

Answer 6

well the difference is homoism and legalism. and no luciferism cannot be technicaly called satanism. since they are two completly different corrupting angels.

the three sin bows in Revelation, are poured upon the earh by three totaly different corruption angels, in the order G-D hates: the satan G-D hates, the baal molech TheG-D also hates, and the lucifer G-D hates also.

Answer 7

It's possible for sure

Answer 8

Sounds like a highschool Goth club.

Answer 9

Atheists don't believe in any god, so terms like "Atheistic Satanist" and "Atheistic Lucerfrianism" and "Atheists for Jesus" are oxymorons.

Answer 10

Atheists don't believe in any of these supernatural entities. Sorry.