Can Christians explain this about the trinity?

Question

If the trinity is the true message of God - God the father, the son and the Holy Ghost why did NONE of the Prophets before Jesus (pbuh) preach it e.g Moses, Abraham etc

They all preached God was one and unlike human beings and without partners and sons as Jews and Muslims believe - so how could GOD change and suddenly have a son!!!!

Answer 1

It is quite plain. You just choose to reject it.

The Hebrew word for one is "echad." (Pronounced ekh-awd') and is Strong's Ref. # 259. It is a numeral from HSN0258; properly, united, i.e. one; or (as an ordinal) first. Since it means "united," we see in Genesis, during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.

Various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).

Your problem is you believe a later book that tells you "Proclaim: Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He neither begets nor was begotten." (Surah 112:1-4)

In Christianity, we believe that Jesus was begotten. (John 1:14) And we believe Jesus to be God.

Answer 2

You are correct, nowhere in the Hebrew Scriptures does it speak of a trinity, it's always "one God" then if there is a trinity, God must have been lying to these people, and the Bible says "God cannot lie"

Look at what the King James Bible says: "Isaiah 43:10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isaiah 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:8  Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

‘But isn’t Jesus called a god in the Bible?’ someone may ask. This is true. Yet Satan is also called a god. (2 Corinthians 4:4) At John 1:1, which refers to Jesus as “the Word,” some Bible translations say: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But notice, verse 2 says that the Word was “in the beginning with God.” And while men have seen Jesus, verse 18 says that “no man hath seen God at any time.” (Authorized or King James Version) So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.”

Did Jesus ever say that he was God? No, he never did. Rather, in the Bible he is called “God’s Son.” And he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” Also, Jesus explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that only God knew. (Mark 13:32) Further, on one occasion Jesus prayed to God, saying: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he? In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32) Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons. Even after his death and resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus was still not equal to his Father.


As for the “Holy Spirit,” the so-called third Person of the Trinity, this is not a person but God’s active force. John the Baptizer said that Jesus would baptize with holy spirit, even as John had been baptizing with water. Hence, in the same way that water is not a person, holy spirit is not a person. (Matthew 3:11) What John foretold was fulfilled when, following the death and resurrection of Jesus, holy spirit was poured out on his followers gathered in Jerusalem. The Bible says: “They all became filled with holy spirit.” (Acts 2:4) Were they “filled” with a person? No, but they were filled with God’s active force. Thus the facts make clear that the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Actually, long before Jesus walked the earth gods were worshiped in groups of three, or trinities, in places such as ancient Egypt and Babylon.

Answer 3

Mostly the doctine of the Trinity is misunderstood they are not partners or separate but one. The doctrine of the trinity basically states.......

There is one God.
The Father is God,
the Son is God
and the Holy Spirit is God.
Hence God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
Three, but they make up one God.
Each is a co-equal and co-eternal part of one God.

There are several Old Testament passages that have prophecies the coming of the son as a Savior as a child and several passages that talk of the Spirit of God. The doctrine of trinity does not have them as separate or partners but three distinct personalities that make up 1 God.

There is an old story about trying to understand the nature of God and the trinity..........
St Augustine was walking down a beach contemplating the Trinity, attempting to get a handle on the concept. Along the way he saw a small child walking back and forth from the ocean to a small hole that was dug in the sand, carrying a small spoon of water. Augustine asked the child "What are you doing?" The child looked at him, "I am going to move the ocean from over there to here," he said pointing to the hole,"using this." He continued as he held up the small spoon. Augustine replied "That is impossible. The entire ocean would never fit into such a small hole, even if it did you would never get it in there with that spoon." The child heading back to the ocean turned to Augustine and said, "I have a better chance of moving the ocean into that hole then you have of understanding God and the Trinity."

Also Mr. Seahorse according to the World Council of Churches the Trinity is one of the main doctrinal points of agreement of Christianity and if you do not believe in the Trinity and agree with the doctrine by definition you are not Christian but polytheistic

Answer 4

The Trinity is a term that is used to help explain how Jesus, who was human, could also be God/Divine. This term wasn't preached by any of the earlier prophets because the Christian religion wasn't born then. It came after the death of Christ to help the people make the link in understanding how Jesus, could have been God the Father, his begotten son and the Holy Spirit in which he moved.

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19);

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14)."

It's a hard concept to grasp when you hear it for the first time. So, I hope this helps you in your quest for understanding.

Answer 5

It was prophesized in the Old Testament that Jesus (then not known by that name) would come to the earth, but it is not prophesized that he would be THE son of God.

Your example citing the Jews and Muslims, and their strict monotheism is spot-on. You're exactly correct. It doesn't make any sense.

To the poster that said only Catholics believe in the trinity, a majority of Christians believe in the trinity. I only know of two sects that openly proclaim their disproval with the Trinity. The Mormons, and the Jehovah's Witnesses. But even still, they functionally believe in the principal, they just don't call it by that name. Semantics.

Answer 6

Abraham and Moses are in the old testament and if only Adam and Eve did not commit a sin which God him self told them not to we all could be living like Adam and Eve in the same garden and enjoying for ever but bz they break the commandment so God give out his only son to dye for our sins so that it why we

have the trinity in three
The father :and he is God him self
The son :and that is Jesus
The trinity: that is the holy spirit and our helper

Answer 7

ALL True Christians STILL preach that THE GOD is ONE!



Look up Psalm 45, and Psalm 110. Both indicate THE GOD speaking to
"HIS OTHER".....also......The Trinity is indicated in 1 John 5:7 if you are using
a King James Bible (others have removed or altered same).

In the Old Testament see Isaiah 44:6 --- and His redeemer I am ---.
and Isaiah 45:11 --- And His maker --.

My favourite indicator is 1 Corinthians 15:28 ! At some point The Trinity will once
again unite because THEN there will be no need for The Trinity !

Water appears as a liquid, steam, and ice. All three are one.
A Clover leaf has three segments, it is but ONE clover.

In both situations above, three are one. Why can't THE GOD do the same?

Answer 8

The trinity is a philisophical way of understanding the God phenomenon. If Muslim theologians had started describing Islam as God, his Prophet and his Message, for example, you would then have an Islamic Trinity. It is a means of interperetation. The fact that it became accepted as revealed truth is a side effect of Orthodoxy, legalism, the need to codify everything in rigid ways.

Answer 9

This was God's way, how he chose, to reveal Himself... it doesn't have to fit our mold.
The Son always was - he spoke the world, and all things into existence from the Father.
God is one - one god in three persons. The best way I can describe it is like an apple - core, flesh and skin - but one. Not a great description but you get the idea.
The Holy Spirit was present as well, and came powerfully to be with us and after Jesus returned to heaven.

Answer 10

Any reference in the OT to the Trinity would be labeled under PROPHECY (they were predicting what will happen).

But think about it man. . . before Jesus was born there was NO SON. How can you have a Trinity before the second part was born?