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...I mean, if they are going to take it so literally, how can they trust they are getting all of it, an accurate translation???

2006-12-26 03:47:17 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Why are they taught that there aren't several books missing from the King James version?

They are taught it's the complete works by "god" sure about that ?: who told them? King James????

2006-12-26 03:50:12 · update #1

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If you are referring to the Apocrypha, I've read it.

2006-12-26 03:52:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I had a great one that was not only an accurate translation from the original Greek and Hebrew, but it also had a crap load of foot notes (about half the page for each page) that showed how a phrase was changed in other translations. It's pretty interesting to see how many edits it's been through. It also contained books taken out, and the books of the Apocrypha. My sister swiped it from me, so I need to get another one. This thing was huge. It must have weighed 50 pounds.
I've read some of the other books as well. I think if you're going to invest your life in a belief system, you shouldn't blindly follow it without doing some research. There are tons of books that for one reason or another that were not put into canon. Some were controversial, some were contradictory, some were just not popular. The truth is there are seveal books written about Jesus's travels as a young man, as a child, more detailed accounts of his birth, death and return, stories that hail Judas as a hero (as I think he would be), and so on. The main reason most of these books remain forgotten or lost was because kings were financing the publication of these books in a time when the common man did not read. If there is no funding, they didn't get copied. That's the main reason most of these were lost. Not so much conspiricy as it was lack of funding.
By the way, The King James Version is one of the worst translations. The problem was King James was not a theologian like he claimed to be, so he had the book rewritten to suit his beliefs. This happened a lot throughout history.

I do find it disturbing that most so called Christians do not study, let alone read the bible.

2006-12-26 11:54:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

They are not. The "Bible" as it exists today is a mere fragment of the 1500 books comprising the original total complete Bible. It was originally something close to 500,000 pages long in all. That is a LOT of information that is lost and gone. Most of it was burned under order from the Vatican. And aside from those, there are the personal diaries of the mother of Mary, and a direct account of the Virgin Mary as well of her life and Jesus's life. That movie that the Vatican is so in an uproar about tells about how Jesus married Mary Magdalin and had children. The mother of Mary tells that story as well, and so does the direct account of the Virgin Mary as well.

Also, things such as the age of Mary when she had Jesus, how the virgin birth is performed, how many planets are in the solar system, the fact that the planets revolve around the sun, the direct saying from God that all life evolves on the planet, that we are the 5th sentient creatures on the planet, the saying the current man is a genetic manipulation of CroMagnon man (the 4th sentient creatures), and many many other things are being deliberately withheld from everyone.

2006-12-26 11:54:29 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

90% of them have no clue about the bible they have now. Why add more confusion to their lives?

By the by, the openly gay King James I and his flunkies made revisions (like replacing the word "poisoners" with "witches" because he thought he'd been cursed by a witch) to the bible. They did not remove books. Most of that was done by the Councils of Nicea.

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2006-12-26 11:56:22 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The men who wrote, but who did not word, the Bible knew there were false teachers even in their lifetime. When the Catholic church put the Bible together, those men knew about the false teachings. Apostle Paul even spoke about them.

Basically, all religions today sound similar to the original Torah.
All countries seem to have their version of Noah's Flood. Pagan practices today came from pagan practices of old. The Bible even tells us where all these false gods and goddesses came from.

The Bible tells us "there is nothing new under the sun."

2006-12-26 11:56:20 · answer #5 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 0 2

When you start looking at detailed accounts for each version you will have to think for yourself.

Example:

NIV- 45 historical documents support it; Based on high reading levels; Pieces missing (1 John 5:7, etc), Down Grades Jesus Christ and God.

KJV- Over 5,500 documents support it; Based on a 5th Grade reading level; No pieces missing, Glorifies Jesus Christ and God. Servived Catholic persecution.


You have to look at the merit.

2006-12-26 11:53:19 · answer #6 · answered by UCF Scholar 3 · 0 1

Because the apocryphal books of the Bible paint quite a different picture than the ones the Christians chose to include as canon in the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.

For example, out of all the Gospels written, only Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John make Jesus out to be divine. In the others, he is only a prophet and a leader, not a god. They are also the only Gospels not to mention Mary Magdalene as his wife, but instead smear her as a prostitute. Biblical scholars also agree that the resurrection stories included at the end of these four books differ from the writing style of the rest of the books, adding to the conclusion that they were added later.

But I wouldn't expect most Christians to know about the Council of Nicaea, where the divinity of Jesus was debated and finally cemented in doctrine.

As you can see, the truth isn't very popular.

2006-12-26 11:51:12 · answer #7 · answered by Michael 5 · 0 4

The books were removed because the Protestants didn't think they had anything to offer and wanted to be different from the Catholics.

And Michael, reread the Gospels. Mary Magdelene is mentioned in at least two (and one by name). She was not (can't hear that, let me repeat NOT) the wife of Jesus.

2006-12-26 11:56:38 · answer #8 · answered by sister steph 6 · 0 1

Many of them are TOTALLY UNRELATED to THE GOD , Jesus, Christianity or just about anything.

READ THE BOOK in the Catholic Bible Titled
"Bell and The Dragon" and see what I mean.

Even Bishops and Arch Bishops have no idea why it is included!

2006-12-26 11:51:33 · answer #9 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 1 1

CATHOLICISM - DEFINITIONS

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Catholics and Protestants alike use many of the same words. However, the Catholic definitions of these words is often different than the Biblical definition understood by evangelical Christians. Therefore, before delving to far into exploring the beliefs of Catholicism, it is important to understand the different definitions. Below are some common terms, and how the Catholic definition differs from the Biblical definition:

Furthermore, it should be pointed out, that in order to justify the Catholic Church's doctrines of prayers for the dead, the Mass, invocation and intercession of the saints, the worship of angels, purgatory, the redemption of souls after death, and other doctrines, the Church added new portions to the Old Testament books of Esther and Daniel, plus seven additional books: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Ben Sirach (or "Ecclesiasticus"), Baruch, and Wisdom. The Catholic Church refers to these extra books as "deuterocanonical works". This means that they are scriptural for Catholics, but not part of the Jewish Bible. Protestants call these additions "The Apocrypha," and have never considered them part of inspired scripture due to their historical, geographical, and chronological errors, as well as for their heretical doctrines. In fact, the Catholic Church itself did not add the Apocrypha to the Bible until the Council of Trent (held in the 1500's).

Grace



Bible: God's disposition toward mankind, wherein He expresses His mercy and love, so that the believer is now treated as if he were innocent and righteous.



Catholicism: A power - separate from God - which is placed into a believer. This power enables the believer to perform works that will earn him or her the "right" to heaven.


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Salvation

Bible: The instantaneous reception of an irrevocable right-standing before God. Salvation is secured by faith, through the grace of God. It is not given only to those who have lived in a worthy way. Romans 3:23 tells us that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." No, salvation is given to those the Bible describes as "ungodly," "sinners," "enemies," and "children of wrath."

Catholicism: The lifelong process whereby God and men cooperate in the securing of forgiveness of sin. This is achieved only after death (and/or cleansing from sin in purgatory), and is dependant on man's personal securing of objective righteousness before God; otherwise, there would be no salvation.


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Reconciliation (atonement for sins)

Bible: All sins are forgiven at the point of salvation, because Christ's death satisfied all God's wrath against sin. (See Colossians 2:13,14)

Catholicism: Sins are only potentially forgiven, and so must be worked off through a process mediated by the Church and its sacraments over the lifetime of the believer.


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Regeneration

Bible: The instantaneous imparting of eternal life and the quickening of the human spirit, making it alive to God.

Catholicism: The lifelong process of infusing grace (spiritual power) to perform meritorious works (in part).


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Justification

Bible: The legal declaration of Christ's righteousness reckoned to the believer at the point of faith, solely as an act of God's mercy.

Catholicism: Spiritual rebirth and the lifelong process of sanctification which begins at the point of the sacrament of baptism.

2006-12-26 11:52:10 · answer #10 · answered by Jeff C 4 · 0 1

What "left out" books are you referring to?
What do you mean by an "accurate translation"?

2006-12-26 11:53:45 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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