Atheists and skeptics- You say there is not God, Jesus, Heaven, Hell or Satan?

Question

You say that we Chrsitians are wrong. Just say we are, and we are not when we die we just go the the dust and that is it. But just say all right that there is a God, Jesus, Heaven, Hell and the Devil, you would **** yourself. If we are 100% right and you are 100% wrong then you would go straight to Hell and burn with demons tormenting you physically and mentaly. If there was a Hell and you went there, then you would believe, trust me on that one. But like I said if we are wrong then we have nothing to look forward to in this life as we have nothing to look forward to after life, as we live to die. But like I said if we are right, then I would hate to be in your shoes on judgment day.

Answer 1

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 2

I reserve my judgement of the devine in utter withering respect.
For I can say I have my extreme fears and proper doubts I can see you have the same fears within yourself, but instead, perverted back towards man by your devine teachings.
Forgive my judgementality here (for being a good christian that is what you must do) but I find your argument is typical bible thumping garbage that would only serve to scare people away from your beliefs rather than towards. Your words are a crass, bile threat and you undermine my capacity to respect God and for that I take offense. For what if it is you that has the rediculously misplaced notion of understanding any portion of Gods will?
I can rationally tell you I have greater respect for God than you. For I presume nothing at all based from the tongues and writs of other men. I give all of my fear to it and do not spit it into the eyes of others. I think you should keep your faith in your heart and pray a little harder.
You are so far down one path that it would disturb you to consider any other way and im not interested in trying to convert you or earn your love, but it would be hypocritical if you were not trying to win mine would it not? So there you are stuck making an *** of yourself in my eyes and doing what you know is right in your own to evangelise.
When you show up in third world countries with food for the starving populace and build houses in your zealotry I cannot say it is a bad thing. But I have to also hold back my intuition to see it as such a good thing also...that is the honestly impressive way. Please just drop your fear tact, its really old and undermines the only belief that I do have.
Although you may offend me, you wont get much more than a laugh from an athiest I would believe. Perhaps this posting is a waste of your personal time as much as it is a boring misrepresentation of your faith.

Answer 3

I love the whole "what if were right" argument. Does it make you feel better thinking you can scare us into believing? Do you not think we have already thought out this scenario and decided for ourselves what to fear in this life. Hey what if we are right & you wasted your entire life trying to convert people instead of actually making some kind of diverence in this world, ohh wait a minute then nothing you ever did would even matter right, Wrong in this life the possibilty of changing the world for the better does not rely on the conversion of man into one big group of god fearing people & no matter who you are the effect you have in this world upon others will last an eternity. Makes no difference if you are a murderer or a saint either way the role you played will effect something somehow in someway until the end of all life, kind of gives you something to think about

Answer 4

You probably cherish your right to believe whatever you wish to believe. So does almost everyone else. By exercising this right, earth's six billion inhabitants have produced an amazing diversity of beliefs. Like the variations in color, shape, texture, taste, smell, and sound that we find in creation, differing beliefs often add interest, excitement, and enjoyment to life. Such variety can, indeed, be the spice of life.-Psalm 104:24.
BUT there is a need for caution. Some beliefs are not only different but also dangerous. Early in the 20th century, for example, some people came to believe that Jews and Freemasons had plans to "disrupt Christian civilization and erect a world state under their joint rule." One source of this belief was an anti-Semitic tract entitled Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. The tract alleged that the plans included advocating excessive taxation, promoting armament production, encouraging giant monopolies so that 'Gentile wealth could be destroyed in one blow.' Allegations also included manipulating the education system so as to 'turn Gentiles into unthinking beasts,' and even constructing underground railways to join capital cities so that the Jewish elders could 'quell any opposers by blowing them sky-high.'
These, of course, were lies-designed to inflame anti-Semitic feelings. 'This preposterous fiction,' says Mark Jones of the British Museum, 'spread abroad from Russia,' where it first appeared in a newspaper article in 1903. It reached The Times of London on May 8, 1920. More than a year later, The Times exposed the document as a fake. In the meantime, the damage had been done. 'Lies like these,' says Jones, 'are hard to suppress.' Once people accept them, they produce some very jaundiced, poisonous, and dangerous beliefs-often with disastrous consequences, as the history of the 20th century has shown.-Proverbs 6:16-19.
Belief Versus Truth
Of course, it does not take deliberate lies to develop mistaken beliefs. At times, we just misread things. How many people have met untimely deaths doing something they believed was right? Then again, often we believe a thing simply because we want to believe it. One professor says that even scientists "often fall in love with their own constructions." Their beliefs becloud their critical judgment. Then they may spend a lifetime in vain trying to shore up mistaken beliefs.-Jeremiah 17:9.
Similar things have happened with religious beliefs-where immense contradictions exist. (1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Timothy 4:3, 4) One man has deep faith in God. Another says that the man is only "weaving faith out of moonshine." One maintains that you have an immortal soul that survives death. Another believes that when you die you cease to exist, totally and completely. Obviously, conflicting beliefs like these cannot all be true. Is it not the course of wisdom, then, to make sure that what you believe actually is true and not simply what you want to believe? (Proverbs 1:5) How can you do that? The Bible has all the answers including yours

Answer 5

Christianity! What is 'Christianity'? You claim your faith is to worship one God, and he will make your, and other peoples, lives more worthwhile and conducive, yet you spend so much time and energy condemning other people for their own beliefs that you actually lose track of what you were praying for in the first place. Surely the idea of christianity was brought about by the idea of teaching people the difference between good and bad. Spend more time trying to use your energy being nice to people than trying to damn everybody, who doesn't have the same opinion as you, to hell, and you may enjoy this life more, rather than pinning all your hopes on the afterlife, which for you, may not be as pleasant as you'd hoped it would be.

Answer 6

Just because somebody has told you these things does not mean they are right. Everybody has the same right to think what they want. For lots of us this means not just believing what other people tell us, or believing what is in a book without going out and finding out IF it is true. Quite often there is no proof that particular things are true, so we decide not to believe it.
If somebody, in a few hundred years time, finds perhaps, a discworld novel and thought it was true, would YOU believe them automatically without checking first? Of course not. Take it easy, and good luck to you.

Answer 7

So basically, you're arguing Pascal's Wager (with added profanity):
"Pascal argued that it is a better 'bet' to believe that God exists, because the expected value of believing that God exists is always greater than the expected value resulting from non-belief. Indeed, he claimed that the expected value is infinite. With this, he sought to convert those, to Christianity, who were uninterested in religion and unimpressed by previous theological arguments for it."

However, there are many issues with this. Two of the most prominent:
1. If you only believe because you're afraid of what happens if you don't, is that true belief? Might you be sent to Hell anyhow?
2. This assumes that there are only two options: the Christian view is right, or there's no religion whatsoever. However, there are dozens, probably hundreds, of other religions that also state you'll be sent to hell if you don't believe THEM. Why should you choose Christianity?

Read about it yourself. Learn some game theory, open your mind a bit, and lay off the polemics. Merry Christmas from a Jewish agnostic teenager.

Answer 8

Hell is the state of self-exclusion from communion with God. God won't tension a individual to be with him in heaven, if that individual refuses to be with God. God respects the liberty of his creatures. as a result, hell is a decision. whilst you're an atheist, you could never understand approximately heaven and hell.

Answer 9

If, if if if if if
So what, nothing but IF's
.
If your right , if there is a God, if there is a heaven, if there is a hell, if hell is the way you describe, if its people like atheist that go there, if if if.
Cant you see what you are doing?

PROVE IT.

We can get IF's anywhere.
What IF God prefers RATIONAL thinkers which would clearly lead one to notice that no God speaks to anyone.

Answer 10

Are you supposed to be witnessing? Why are you so frustrated and angry? Truth and realism is hard to take sometimes, isn't it? Won't you be mad that you didn't make the best out of your life as it is? Live life like every day were your last and stop living only for the after life.