what do christians think the reasoning is/was...?

Question

ok, Judaism rejects jesus as the messiah.

Christianity believes Jesus was the messiah and/or god incarnate, and/or a "sacrifice for our sins" or something to that effect.

Now, Christians think Jesus is/was certain things.
now the Jews have one concept of what the messiah is/was and and is/was supposed to be.

if Jesus was the messiah that Judaism was looking for... why is it you think that they/we rejected him?

one reasoning I've heard people say, is that the jews were expecting a physical savior to save them from the romans and physically rebuild the temple and such, when it was really a spiritual savior.

but this doesn't actually make a bit of sense, as the jews already had/have that spiritual salvation, WITHOUT jesus.

it seems to me like the whole reasoning for why to believe in jesus is a big knot of misconceptions...

(a little bit to be added in a moment)

I apologize for the delay... was having some trouble posting the rest., it didn't want to let me "add details" ...

heres the rest

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all the things that Jesus offers that Judaism doesn't already have(and has always had, from God) are solutions to problems that don't exist within judaism, but were problems brought in with belief in jesus (essentially constructed problems, that did not exist before that, in order to be solved by the new beliefs)
Eternal hell to be saved from? there never was any concept of Eternal Hell in Judaism.
Judaism never had any concept of needing to be "fulfilled". the Jewish messiah was NOT meant to be any more divine than you or I, was NOT meant to be a sacrifice, or take 2 trips to get the job done. the jewish scripture says young woman, not virgin. the virgin aspect is NOT pivotal(though, it is slightly inferred, its not crucial) and would have to have 2 biological parents of specific lineage (how important it being trackable, is arguable)

Ryan, you are incorrect. the old testament does NOT say that. the spots that are portrayed as saying that are misinteperetations, or mistranslations.
and GOD himself is our "savior" there is no need for any other. God never did require absolute perfection, and even does not entirely exclude the idea of reincarnation, and theres DEFINITELY no "hell".
remember theres also no original sin in Judaism or the OT, and while there are a whopping 613 laws in the OT, all of them are followable.

for a jew to belive in jesus as many christians do, would by the standards given to us by God, be Idolotry. it would go directly contrary to the exclusivity, and unity of God.

Answer 1

Can you just ask what you mean? I can't seem to locate your actual question through all your assumptions.

Answer 2

Judaism doesn't reject Jesus as the messiah, just the jews who follow judaism. What the jews wanted was, in fact, a king to rule this world. But, they forgot that the old testament also says the messiah would die for us. And his death was predicted to be on a cross thousands of years b4 crusifixion appeared.
Anyways, jews did not have salvation w/o the messiah. They had the law, and if they followed it to the letter, than sure, they could go to heaven. But all have fallen short of the law so all need a savior, the messiah, Jesus Christ.

Answer 3

The Christian church, just as Judaism, is guilty of being all over the map with regard to various doctrines such as Eschatology, Glossolalia, once saved always saved etc. The errors generally come when scripture is either misinterpreted, or in some cases intentionally misinterpreted. The Jews of Maschiachs time desperately needed a "political" King. That is one thing. The fact, as we have recorded in history, that, as the saying goes "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely", you had people who essentially were on the take as it were and Yeshua came in and at the time of Pesach "cleaned house". Well, certainly at this point that would certainly have "jaded" the High Priests and their whole cadre. They would certainly be looking the other way with respect to aspects of Yeshua's life from its' inception and beyond.

Let me now address the point about the need of the Jews for a "savior". You did. We all did. Possibly you kept Shabbos, and Pesach; Rosh Ha shana, Yom Ha Kiporim and Sukkot (Purim and Hannukah notwithstanding). But remember that it has been said that Gamaliel was once asked to stand on one leg and explain the Torah while so standing, thus we come up with what Yeshua quoted "Love lthe L-rd your G-d with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself". I have a tallis and I know that the fringes represent the 617 mitzvot. Yet Yeshua took people beyond all of that in various sermons, did he not. Because the keeping of the law, nor all of lthe sacrifices in and of themselves were able to save anyone, because ultimately that was not G-d's plan from the outset. In fact there is a verse of scripture which points to the fact that G-d was going to institute a change. That scripture says that He would make a new covenant (Jeremiah 31:31) and it would not be like the covenant He made with Israel at Sinai. Guess what, Yeshua was the fulfillment of that promise. This is one scripture that seems to be convenienetly overlooked and as I understand it from some scholars, is omitted as a reading during the Torah cycles.

Let me sum up with two points essentially. First of all, I'm from a state in the U.S. which does not have a sales tax. In our state it might be good to have one. In almost every election cycle or every other one possibly, we have had people put a sales tax on as a ballot measure. For the 50 years that I've been living in this state there has never been a sales tax measure. Do you realize that we have voted down these measures in large part simply because we've never had a sales tax. There is a corrolary in that Jews as a whole will not accept Jesus as their Messiah, simply because they have never accepted Jesus as their Messiah and they go through all kinds of machinations to prove that He was not. But this brings me to my second point. Let me challenge you with this. Read the bible from Genesis through to Revelations. Pay particular attention to the Gospel of Matthew (written for Jews) and to Pauls Letter to the Hebrews (some do not claim Pauline authorship). Read Lee Strobels "The Case for Christ" or Og Mandino's "The Christ Commission". Attend a Messianic service in your area and get together with the "Rabbi" or Leader. This I suggest because it would appear that you are truly seeking, and frankly these pages are not really geared for the task that is at hand. I hope that I've helped by shedding some light on these issues, or at the very lest pointed you in a direction that will work for you. My concern is not for the best answer, but essentially do His will in helping to spread the Gospel. I will post the Jews for Jesus site for your further consultation, as well as one of my websites.

Answer 4

And if jesus was the messiah, why didn't he just bring peace with him in the beginning instead of waiting for his second return! Anyways, to your question: i know you guys rejected him for many reasons! I asked a question on what you were looking for in the messiah, and i studied it with an open mind...and yeah, it makes sense why you rejected jesus!

EDIT: you know, you're absolutely right in everything you say!

Answer 5

The Jewish leadership already had its leaders when Jesus showed up. So they rejected Jesus, cause they didn't want the competition.

Answer 6

Hmmmm.

Good question.
My respect, brother.

Answer 7

you must read and understand the word of God in the bible to understand what you are saying