Seeing other Christian's answers on the meaning of the flood Noah was disturbing to think they would believe that they might escape tribulation and persecution, yes, even being put to death for the cause of Christ. I mean, it's going to be pretty rough if you can't buy or sell without the mark of the beast and if men take you up before the councils (justice systems) and you suffer for His name's sake. I mean, it would be nice if we didn't have to face persecution but I can't see as how the Lord is coming until all that He said would come to pass actually does. So, where does this no-suffering doctrine come from?
2006-12-25 14:04:25 · 8 answers · asked by Lovin' Mary's Lamb 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
R[10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
These verses indicate to me that someone was hungry, thirsty, scorched from the sun and crying. Some have already have had great troubles.
2006-12-26 09:08:46 · update #1
I would like to believe that I willnot suffer, but I just can't see it. I suffered so much in my childhood, with the sexual abuse, I hope I don't have to suffer anymore, but ya know, if the end come, i probably will, I can't see God taking me up, and leaving no one for the anti-christ to persecute.
2006-12-25 14:16:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well I think the theological answer is "Tribulation [i.e. End Times] is a final warning/punishment for the people who do not turn to God, and God wants to spare his chosen from that era"
A lot of people have added their own interpretation to the End Times and now everyone thinks is just written in the Bible that the Antichrist will be the leader of the UN, that he'll give everyone an electronic implant or stamp saying they are a follower of Satan/Antichrist or whatever....................... I don't really dwell on the Ends Times because I know whatever happens who is still the winning side, and I know which side I am on.
2006-12-25 22:36:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
totally Agree... Just believing in God won't make life all rainbows and flowers. Even after Christ returned home, his devotees and discples had to go through much hardship in the service of the Lord.
No Pain No Gain... we want a perfect Body... we gotta control our diet and spend hours of painful training at the gym.
We want to be a perfectly Kind and Patient Christ being, we gotta encounter multitudes of people that are unkind and prod our limits to the max. in order for us to learn what patience and kindness is.. :) hehe
2006-12-25 22:51:24 · answer #3 · answered by Tiara 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There are numerous passages in the Bible to support pre, mid or post tribulation scenarios. I hope for the Rapture (and I don't have an inkling as to when it's going to be)...but even it comes before or after the tribulation period the Bible prophesies, the bottom line is to be ready.
Suffering is part of the Christian life. As a matter of fact, no one is exempt from it, believer or not. The moment one becomes a Christian, he/she must take up his/her cross (so to speak) and follow Christ. Having said that however, we must differentiate being spared from suffering from being spared from God's wrath.
The concept of pre-tribulation rapture is supported by passages such as this one: In 1 Thessalonians 5:9, Paul assures us that God has not appointed His people to wrath. This wrath is plainly God's anger that will be poured out during the tribulation. Pre-trib believers interpret this as meaning that Christians will be removed from the earth. Post-trib believers tell a different story. They describe this as meaning that God will protect Christians during the tribulation and pour this wrath out on the unbelievers only. This idea runs against the statement made in Revelation 13:7, in which the Antichrist is given power to make war with the saints and to overcome them. A post-trib view would make God's promise of protection from wrath into a lie.
In Luke 12:36, the Word states that when Christ returns, He will be returning from a wedding. In Revelation 19:7-8, we read about the marriage itself. The marriage supper takes place before the marriage. According to Jewish custom, the marriage contract, which often includes a dowry, is drawn up first. The contract parallels the act of faith we use when we trust Jesus to be our Savior. The dowry is His life, which was used to purchase us. When it’s time for the wedding, the groom goes to the bride's house unannounced. She comes out to meet him, and then he takes her to his father's house. This precisely correlates with the events according to the pre-trib scenario. Jesus, the Groom, comes down from heaven and calls up the Church, His Bride. After meeting in the air, He and His Bride return to His Father's house, heaven. The marriage supper itself will take place there, while down here on earth the final events of the tribulation will be playing out. After the marriage supper of Jewish tradition, the bride and groom are presented to the world as man and wife. This corresponds to the time when Jesus returns to earth accompanied by an army "clothed in fine linen, white and clean" (Rev 19:14).
Read the rest here:
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-pretribulation-rapture.html
2006-12-25 22:09:11 · answer #4 · answered by TY 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
They are wrong. Suffering is part of living in a sinful world. Christ even warned that believing in him would not save a person from suffering and persucution.
2006-12-25 22:12:59 · answer #5 · answered by me45404 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Are you trying to frighten people? Mark of the beast? Tribulation and persecution? Ohhh spooky language. You said it yourself, not even Christians believe this, and they'll believe anything.
2006-12-26 01:01:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
all i know is, it's gonna be a doozie! hehehe...
2006-12-25 22:12:52 · answer #7 · answered by That's A Lot of Nonsense 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
dont
2006-12-25 22:07:20 · answer #8 · answered by annjilena 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋