Is Jesus Lucifer, “ the morning Star, light giver, Law beaker of his own people“?

Question

Isaiah 14
1For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

2And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

3And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

4That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

5The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

6He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

9Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

21Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

22For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

23I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

24The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

25That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

26This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

27For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

Answer 1

Could be. Reading the Bible Jesus sure does sound like he has a lot of pride. I'm also sure Lucifer wasn't truly evil, or else how could he have gotten a third of all the angels to follow him?

Answer 2

it is true that both Jesus and Lucifer are called morning stars.

because they both existed in the beginning. at least thats what I think it is.
Lucifer however, is no longer called lucifer but satan, and despite i say this, there are people who say they are different personages.

The fact that jesus is a star and lucifer was a star is symbolically pronouncing that they are both angels. and as angels they are called sons of God. as i have said many times Mankind becomes like unto the angels, and the sons of god become creators and saviours and saviours become gods and join the godhead. Therefore Jesus said we have power to become sons of god.

Answer 3

PROPER Biblical Interpretation = compares Scripture with Scripture!

A verse or verses taken out of Context is most always a Pre-Text for error!

Did you compare Ezekiel 28 Also? How about these verses?

(2Corinthians 11:13-to-15) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

(2Co 11:14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

(2Co 11:15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Thanks, RR

Answer 4

You, Lucifer, said in your
heart:
"I will scale the heavens.
I will set up my throne.
Above the stars of God.
I will take my seat. on the
Mount of Congregation,
in the recesses of the North.
I will ascend above the
tops of the clouds;
I will be like the Most High!"
[Isaiah 14:13-15]



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The devil then took Jesus
up a very high mountain and displayed before him all
the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence,
promising: "All these will I bestow on you if you
prostrate yourself in homage before me."
At this, Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan!
Scripture has it:
`You shall worship the Lord your
God; Him ALONE shall you dore.'"

[Matthew 4:8-10] & [Luke 4:5-8]

Answer 5

This is not pride. This is a statement of fact. What the Jews NEEDED to hear at a time of hard life in their history. That a Savoir would come to do all these things and save them.

Answer 6

THIS SCRIPTURE IS TALKING ABOUT THE FALL OF SATAN WHEN HE WAS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AND HOW ONE DAY WHEN MEN SEE HIM THEY WILL SAY TO THEMSELVES IS THIS THE MAN WHO MADE THE EARTH TREMBLE AND THE KINGDOMS SHAKE?BECAUSE HE IS NOTHING.AND NO JESUS IS NOT LUCIFER BEFORE YOU READ YOUR BIBLE PRRAY THAT THE LORD WILL GIVE YOU KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING .