Give me counterpoints to this if you've got them. . .?

Question

Israel belongs to the Jews. They were living in those lands thousands of years before anyone else showed up. They were dispersed around the world through wars. Everywhere they were persecuted and used as scapegoats. They were treated as "scum of the earth", and despite that, with their genius they proved to be the salt of the earth. They were massacred. They were wiped out from Islamic countries. Now they have come back to their own ancestral land. That is where they belong. They transformed this most forsaken land of God into a paradise. They made the desert bloom and now from that tiny arid land they produce enough food to feed the entire Arab world. They have technology and science that can benefit all their Arab neighbors. Israel is the only shining light in the middle of an ocean of darkness. The least the Muslims can do is to learn from their democracy. But the only thing they can think of is how to wipe Israel off the map.

That wet dream is not going to materialize. Israeli

Israelis have the power to defend themselves. If their existence is threatened, it is legitimate for them to kill their enemies first even if this means reducing half or all the Muslim world into ash. Muslims must realize that their stupidity is only sealing their own doom.

Palestine never existed. Palestinians are Arabs. All these phony Arab countries are the creation of the Old Fox (the Great Britain). Iraq. Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, are all phony countries. They were all parts of the Ottoman Empire. The British thought the best way for them to continue milking the fools is to divide them. Jack Straw is a typical British Politician.
This man is evil and cunning in every sense of the word. Fortunately he was booted out from the cabinet. There will be more Jack Straws. They divided the Ottoman Empire and gave parts of that their loyal friends. Jordan became Jordan-e Hashemi, the entire country belongs to the Hashemi family. Saudi

Arabia was given to Al Saud family, so on so forth. Isn't that an insult to people. These lands do not belong to the millions of people living there. They belong to these families. Arabs are so brain-dead that accepted this humiliation and still don't complain.

Anyway, all these phony Arab countries are the invention of the British. The Palestinians are just Arabs like the rest of Arabs. The solution to the problem of the Middle East is that all these Arabs come together, and form a federal government. They are just one people. They should have one country and the Palestinians should be part of that country. This tiny land called Israel belongs to the Jews.

The Israelis do not have any enmity with the Muslims. They were the first to recognize Bangladesh after their fellow Muslim Pakistani bhais massacred 3,000,000 of them and raped 250,000 of their women. The Israelis were the first to support the rights of the Kurds to self determination. They are the first to offer help t

They are the first to offer help to any Islamic country that is hit by a natural disaster. The Israeli doctors were among the first to rush to Kosovo helping the Muslims. When Bam in Iran was hit by an earthquake burying thousands of people under rubbles, Israel immediately offered to help with rescue teams. The Mullahs said no and God knows how many thousands of people suffered agonizing slow deaths in that winter under the rubbles. They could have been saved if the Israelis were allowed to help. The Israelis have shown they care more about the people of Iran than the mullahs. They care about human life while the mullahs care about their nefarious ideologies and give a damn to human life. Your story of Israelis killing the Palestinians for sport and fun simply does not fall into any known pattern.

Since the creation of Israel until the Islamic revolution, Israel was a great ally of Iran. Even though they were a small country, they had a hospital in Tehran where every Muslim went

they had a hospital in Tehran where every Muslim went when his life was endangered. These Jew haters, forgot about their hatred and the fact that the Jews are najis and sought their help to save their lives. In fact Muslims have for centuries trusted their lives in the hand of Jewish hakims, while at the same time they called them descendants of apes, pigs and rats.

The Jews were supossed to live in Exile for a time not forever. Check out Isaiah and Revelation.

Theophilu..., this article is about Arabs not Persians or Assyrians.

Theopilus, sorry please disregard my previous comment.

This article was written by Ali Sina.

Answer 1

I agree.
The Jews own that land, and no one else does. It is theirs by the grace of God.
The Canaanites inhabited the land before the Jews, but they no longer exist, therefore there is no one today who can rightfully fight the Jews for that land.
The Palestinians are a ploy being usedby the Arab nations to get back that land that they "lost" from the Jews, when it wasn't even their land to begin with.

Answer 2

A few points.

calling the Palestinians not a nation dose not change the fact that they still are alive and are an issue.

Jews are not in the land of Israel because they were there 2,000 years ago. That is irrelevant under the law. They are there because the land was given to them by the British who owned the land that created the state in 48. All land after that was captured in war. Just like every other nation on earth.

Only Israel wins a war and then is demanded to give land back.


Violence with the Arabs will not solve the issue. They might stop using out right military force like they have because they keep losing.

but then they turn to underhanded tactics like they are doing.

The only way to achieve peace is make it worth there while to do so and still let them keep face.

That means dealing with the Palestinian Issue.

as for the answer to that

look here

http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/hs_short_eng.htm

Answer 3

It's a very long question and there's only so much space to answer with. First, Palestinians are Philistines, not Semites (Arabs). They're actually almost as much at odds with Arabs as the Iranians are. Secondly, a big motivation for the creation of Israel (besides an existing Zionist movement) was the fact that as much as the allies felt guilty about what had happened in Germany and wanted to remedy the problem, they were still infected with anti-semitism at some pretty high levels.

Other than that, yeah, the Israelis worked their butts off to create something. I don't doubt that they Palestinians *could* have but look what Lebanon has become in the last 50 years?

Answer 4

You argue that Israel has some divine right to exist. This is utter and complete nonsense. No nation has a "right" to exist and no peoples have a "divine" right to any lands.

If I came to your home, waving a purely self-serving document, written by MY ancestors at the direction of MY god, thousands of years ago, claiming that it proves that I own it and I demanded that you immediately leave under threat of death, you would be on the phone to the police in a heartbeat demanding that the crackpot at the door be removed. Your argument is no more valid. Nor is your argument that advanced agricultural techniques and the money to implement them entitles you to those lands. That I can produce a nicer garden than you can does not entitle me to your property.

That you choose to assign some universal responsibility for your ancestors problems is equally absurd.

If Israel is to be taken seriously as a nation, it will have to learn to stand on its own feet and stop expecting everyone else to insure its existence. If it is not willing/able to do so, it is not a legitimate state and will fall like countless other nations have throughout the history of man. That's how the word has worked since the beginning of time. Nothing today can or should change that.

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Answer 5

I have at least one correction for you. Syria and Persia existed hundreds of years before the end of 1 BC.
Persia is now Iraq and Iran.
So they were not created by the UK.

You might go back and read about Alexander the Great and what happened to his empire when Alexander died.

Also some believe that the Palestinians are the old Philistines.
They have always been in the Gaza strip for most of the years that Israel occupied what was formerly Canaan.

Answer 6

Whatever. Jewish scripture itself says that as a punishment for breaking their covenant with God, they're supposed be living in exile. Jews who actually follow their religion properly are against the Israeli occupation of Palestine, if not the very existence of Israel.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5883025861560126087&q

Answer 7

Counterpoints or counterargument? Nope. Seems pretty much on topic to me.

Answer 8

Stephanie, you have a beard. You look like a man.

Answer 9

u already asked this
and no one cared that time either....