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James Carroll claims it did in his book, "Constantine's Sword," but a Y/A questioner says... "Christianity is NOT a supercessionist religion...in order for Christianity to be true, Judaism must be true."

Supersede: To take the place of; replace.
To cause to be set aside, especially to displace as inferior or antiquated.
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2006-12-25 00:25:11 · 20 answers · asked by Hatikvah 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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wow....
>>"Christianity is the completion of Judaism. One cannot exist without the other. The whole point of Judaism was to show man how it's impossible for man to get to God, so God sent His only son, Jesus, to come to man & make a way for a relationship between God & man."<<

I gotta say... you've summarized every possible misconception about judaism and bundled it up into one bizzare, deceptive, and untrue statement.

Judaism has NO need of christianity.
in Judaism, men CAN talk to God directly. we don't need a mediator. and you have totally mised the point of all of it.

Judaism provides the means to get to God, to do what jesus did. we can all be as Jesus was.

to see Jesus as being more divine than you or I, is Idolotry by the standards given to judaism.
to see him as a sacrifice is simply absurd, an abombination.

if Judaism were proven wrong, than Christianity would fail as well, because it is based upon Judaism.
if christianity were wholely proved wrong... well that would have no effect on Judaism at all. just as Islam being proved wrong, would not effect christianity, unless it at the same time, (in paralell) proved christianity or judaism wrong as well.

I mean think about it, if it was proven that jewish scripture was entirely made up, and totally non-reliable, fabricated, or something like that... then nothing that christians think prophecied jesus as being anything more than a very charismatic mystic, would mean anything.
but Judaism already sees most of christianity's additions to jewish belief as wrong.. if it was proven, it wouldn't change anything for judaism.

Christianity depends on Judaism for Everything.
but at the same time, Judaism is the only thing that can truly disprove Christianity.

Christianity is what it thinks would come of judaism after the jewish messiah has come.
but the problem is, what christianity thinks jesus was, in the form of their opinion as him being the messiah, is NOT what judaism is even supposed to have!

the jewish messiah isn't SUPPOSED to be god incarnate, a sacrifice or any such thing.
Christianity teaches misconceptions about what judaism is and looks for and so forth, because it depends on those misconceptions, in large.

edit: to clarify and summarize...
Judaism has no concept of ever being meant to be "fulfilled". that whole IDEA is bizzare, fabricated nonsense by christianity. nothing in judaism has any concept of being fulfilled in that sense. its just a bizzare silly concept.

2006-12-25 01:02:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

The religion has been replaced the national promises of God are not.
Christianity was an entirely new thing, but based upon the foundation of truth as presented in the OT Bible. In the NT the church is called a "mystery" meaning something not known before. Judaism has been replaced by Chritianity, and it is no longer necessary, its purpose has been fulfilled.
Also remember Judaism today and at the time of Christ was not entirely built on the OT but was largely built on tradition or Talmudic teaching. Jesus spoke of the "traditions" of the Pharisees in His condemnation of the things they were doing.
Also remember that God has not done away with His promises to Israel as a nation, they will still be fulfilled, Israel is still God's chosen people. The church is a parenthisis in Israel's history.

2006-12-25 00:46:48 · answer #2 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 0

No - Christianity evolved from Judaism and even today there are several prayers in churches of all faiths that are remarkably similar to ones you would hear in a synagogue. Just as various faiths within Christianity evolved from the teachings of the disciples. The common denominator is the belief in God and in any form, how can that be inferior or antiquated?

2006-12-25 00:39:19 · answer #3 · answered by Jane 3 · 0 0

Judaism is not antiquated or superceded. The covenant has simply been made richer and more full in order to encompass the gentile as well as the Jew. The Jews are still God's chosen children and it states that clearly in the book of revelation. He simply wants you to believe in the Son, Jesus, and to live in the grace Jesus brought to all mankind and stop living in the antiquated mosaic laws. They are only antiquated because Jesus gave his life as a perfect sacrifice to end the need for any future sacrifice and to make clean all things, including previously unclean foods and such. I admire Jews who can fully follow the letter of Mosaic laws, but it is not necessary if they would only accept Jesus as the messiah.

2006-12-25 00:37:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Christianity does supersede Judaism by your definition, but it did not "do away" with it .Christianity is built on Jewish laws, faith and covenants. God made promises to the Jewish people, and He keeps His promises. When you are born again, and become a Christian, you are given the same rights and privileges that the Jews will have in the latter days.We inherit the same promises.Jesus came to bring together Gentiles and Jews into one church, making one from the two.
God is not finished with the Jewish people.

2006-12-25 00:43:16 · answer #5 · answered by lost and found 4 · 0 0

Many people do convert to Judaism; I happen to be one of them. However, I think many people are becoming secular/atheist as well. Judaism may grow, but I don't think it will ever become the "big" religion, certainly not within my lifetime, at least not without divine intervention :-) I think it's more likely that we'll see people simply start to live better lives as education becomes better and more widespread, and perhaps we'll see the number of Noachide individuals grow. It doesn't matter; our intention was/is not to convert others to Judaism, but to be an example and try to help the world to be a better place. We don't always get it right, but we keep trying.

2016-05-23 05:32:39 · answer #6 · answered by Kiley 4 · 0 0

you're not gonna like my answer, but yes.

If you want to know more about my opinion and possibly about other Christians, check out the book of Romans and the Letter to the Hebrews.

that's not to say that we don't believe (true Christians with a fear of God) that jews are chosen people.

If you want our opinion on that and one end times, check out Revelation about God will defend His chosen people from the Anti-Christ. Because He will come not just after the Christians, but will have a special hatred for Jews.

That spirit is already alive in this world (and has been from the beginning). The Jews are the most persecuted people in history (but the most special, I believe that).

But maybe it's just jealousy or maybe it's a supernatural force against you.

Anyway, some "christians" did some nasty stuff to Jews and I don't deny for a second that God has a special punishment for them. "Touch not my annointed", "I will bless whoever blesses you and curse whoever curses you."

That's not to say that Jews can get away with murder (as some interpret it both among Jews and Gentiles), but that they have are the apple of God's eye, but "to whom much is given, much is expected" (as your people have seen time and time again).

Please do some more research into the New Testament and ask God to show you the way. It would be so awesome if you could have the double blessing of being Jewish and being a Christian.

God bless you, God bless your people, God reinstate Israel.

Happy Channukkah and (even though you don't believe or may not) Merry Christmas!!!

2006-12-25 00:34:16 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant which they broke, though I was their husband, says the Lord. But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." (Jeremiah 31:31-33)

Christianity is Judaism fulfilled, not superceded. Jesus said, "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17)

2006-12-25 00:50:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

James Carroll is not a historian but a novelist.

Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism

2006-12-25 00:56:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Christianity is the completion of Judaism. One cannot exist without the other. The whole point of Judaism was to show man how it's impossible for man to get to God, so God sent His only son, Jesus, to come to man & make a way for a relationship between God & man.

2006-12-25 00:31:36 · answer #10 · answered by topherandlyd 2 · 0 0

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