The manuscript for Science Speaks has been carefully reviewed by a committee of the American Scientific Affiliation members and by the Executive Council of the same group and has been found, in general, to be dependable and accurate in regard to the scientific material presented. The mathematical analysis included is based upon principles of probability which are thoroughly sound, and Professor Stoner has applied these principles in a proper and convincing way.
The following probabilities are taken from that book to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight prophecies, "we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000.
2006-12-24 14:49:37 · 23 answers · asked by Robert K 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
To illustrate this one could cover the state of texas with silver dollars to a depth of 2 feet, mark eight of them, and have a man blindfolded go find them and get all eight the first time
2006-12-24 14:53:22 · update #1
THe point of this is not to place faith in science, but to illustrate to those who place their faith in science that the creation will never disprove the creator
2006-12-24 14:57:41 · update #2
Very true. But people would rather deny the truth of the Messiah, God and the Holy Spirit than to surrender their lives to God. Unfortunately for those who reject them, there is a 100% chance that they are going to Hell. A place not created for Humans in the first place.
2006-12-24 14:53:12 · answer #1 · answered by hello T 7 · 6⤊ 3⤋
The chance of any one man fulfilling just eight prophecies has been calculated by Peter W. Stoner in Science Speaks at 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000 -- yet 60 major Old Testament prophecies, having 270 ramifications were fulfilled by the life of Jesus.
Odds are better I win the state lottery every week for 1 million years buying only a ticket a week.
Odds are better a tornado sweeps through a junkyard and creates a perfectly functioning 747.
2006-12-24 14:52:41 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
And what are the Odds that Superman could survive being shot by cannons. It is mythology and it is easy to write miracles into fiction. Inspector Poirot always solves the crime does he not. What are the odds of that!
What are the chances that Clifornia grape growers performing the same miracle as Jesus making wine out of water.
You really need to get out into the real world once or twice.
This is what this scientific sounding affiliation is:
The American Scientific Affiliation was founded in 1941 by five Christian scientists. John Haitsma, Peter Stoner, Russell Sturgis, Irving Cowperthaite, and Alton Everest met in Chicago to discuss their concern about the need for integration between science and scripture. The American Scientific Affiliation was established in order to "investigate any area relating Christian faith and science and to make known the results of such investigations for comment and criticism by the Christian community and by the scientific community." From the original five members, the ASA has grown to include over 2000 members from most of the 50 states and 38 foreign countries. These members come from all branches of science.
2006-12-24 14:54:22 · answer #3 · answered by Barabas 5 · 2⤊ 3⤋
I heard the same report.They said that was for merely 8 prophecies. For all 50 something it would be in the million millions. Just the fact that those prophecies were written centuries before Christ was born, and everything that the prophecies foretold came true with His birth should be enough to convince even the stupidest of people, and still they reject the facts. The ignorance of some fools is astonishing, even today!
2006-12-24 14:58:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
The Chances that Christ is not the Messiah are 0%. When Christ was baptized and came up from the water a dove descended upon him and God (who can not lie) said This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. That is good enough for me.
2006-12-24 15:09:29 · answer #5 · answered by Pepsi 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
As I wrote in an earlier question:
Most people will be rather quick to tell you that at least as a historical figure, there is no doubt about his existence. However, they don't know their history very well.
First and foremost, there are no contemporary historical documents which mention Jesus Christ. Not one. The historians that are most often cited as having written about Jesus (Josephus, Seutonius, Lucian, Tacitus, Pliny, Justin Martyr, etc.) were born decades after Jesus' alleged crucifixion. It's also important to note that, unlike so many other famous historical figures, Jesus left no writings of his own.
The earliest known document which mentions Jesus Christ is, of course, the New Testament, which was most likely written around thirty to fifty years after Jesus' alleged death. However, seeing as how it is not contemporary, not supported by contemporary works, and concerns itself with supernatural elements (something for which historical documents cannot be used as evidence), it cannot really be used as a reliable historical account.
And as far as all of those prophecies, if you would employ critical thinking for once, you might come to the conclusion that the New Testament was written with the prophecies of the Old Testament in mind; you might also note that the fact that no contemporary historical writings supports the New Testament as more than a little suspicious. But I'm guessing logic isn't your strong point.
I hope that helps.
Edit: And while we're at it, what are the odds that, of all the planets in the universe, Super Man left Krypton and arrived at Earth! The chances must be astronomical! Did Jesus predict that one?
2006-12-24 14:53:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 5⤋
Messiah is a term that has been ascribed to several leaders in the Jewish histories. It is a title for one who saves from disaster. In much the sameway Christ is misused as a last name. This also is a title...not a name.
2006-12-24 15:22:26 · answer #7 · answered by vaughndhume 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Well, it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks about facts since the only fact that matters is that devout Christian's believe Jesus is the Messiah.
2006-12-24 14:53:07 · answer #8 · answered by Hank Hill 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
This is religious, anti-science nonsense. Scientists know Jesus cannot be disproved any more than the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Furthermore, science doesn't much give a damn about doing so.
The group you quoted was a religious phony straw horse organization created to discredit science.
2006-12-24 14:57:53 · answer #9 · answered by valcus43 6 · 3⤊ 4⤋
No, he was not. Organized religion was created to:
A. Control the masses
B. Make money
C. Have an excuse for war
D. Give people hope in their sorry lives
Jesus was just a man that happened to fit nicely into a story.
2006-12-24 14:59:41 · answer #10 · answered by jordansmom 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋