Please point out some values of morality when the Bible was in schools and now. Both sides, ok?

Question

THEN AND NOW....

everyone is doing either or

Answer 1

GUM CHEWING WAS THE BIG MORAL ISSUE WITH THE BIBLE TAUGHT OR READ AS IT WAS

NOW GUN SHOOTING BOTH METAL AND WHAT THEY SAY IF YOUR MATURE ENOUGHT GO FOR IT WITH SAME SEX OR OTHER SEX
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JESUS SETS EM FREE TODAY TOO BUT THEY GOTTA READ THE BIBLE ON THEIR OWN AND PRAY AND LET HIM SAVE THEM REPENTED FROM SIN TO BECOME THEIR FRIEND JOHN 3

Answer 2

I remember hearing about the importance of sword and stone for one's country, why the belt was a good tool for the notion of 'spare the rod, spoil the child', an 'eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.' Seems to me some people's interpretation of 'Christian values' was pretty violent.

I enjoy tales of the Magi, the Nazarites, the apostle Paul, the Last Supper, Mary Magdalene, etc. and all the wisdom and poetry in the book.

I like the Arc of the Covenant, Noah's arc, Abraham and Sarah, Moses and the Red Sea. I get bored with Job. What did he do? Nothing. Esther and Ruth were not interesting but they were important. I enjoyed a movie about the role the Virgin Mary played in Jesus' life and how she was much more powerful and influential than many scholars and historians have thought. I am into the stories, not the violence.

Answer 3

When the Bible was in schools: Revolutionary War, Civil War, Spanish-American War, World Wars I and II.

Out of schools: Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf Wars, War on Terror.

If you're trying to find a correlation between the Bible not being in schools and a supposed lack of morality, you do not know your own Bible: "Do not ask why the days of old were better than the present: for that is a foolish question." - Ecclesiastes 7:10.

Answer 4

I notice that everybody is talking about, "Then the biggest problem was gum chewing! Now we have shootings, gangs and drugs! Looks like we need to put God back in schools lol!"

Did it ever occur to you that these are the result of dramatic shifts in society? All of the biggest shifts occured in the 1960s, with the hippies and the sexual revolution, which led to "alternative lifestyles" becoming fairly common in mainstream society. They had nothing to do with bibles in schools.

Also, I don't appreciate that you all spend your days dreaming about forcing your twisted morality onto those who may not share it. This is a free country. Keep your religion out of my tax-funded government institutions.

Answer 5

You know, oddly...

I'm writing my thesis on modern American mythology, and I've found that the real shift in what I term America's "loss of innocence", in every conceivable way, seems to be more closely connected to the assassination of JFK than anything.

Not saying you're wrong...it's just repeatedly shown up as a moral lynchpin, so to speak. We went from there to a government nobody trusted, and ended up as a country generally at unrest. Actually...hmm. Now I have a new train of thought on it...

Answer 6

Actually, it had NOTHING to do with the Bible being in school. It had to do with STRICT PARENTS and TEACHERS. You were Whipped at school and if you got it at school, then trust me, you got it worse at home. Talking back, even talking in class was prohibited, you spoke when they called your name, things were much more regulated. If your looking for a book to blame, blame Dr. Spock. His book on raising kids started it. He taught parents, mostly the hippy parents and the boomers that "punishing" children was bad! That it would stunt them emotionally. So, now we have a nation of adults that never had to be accountable as children, they were never told "no" because it might make them sad. These children who were never told no, grew up to adults that DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR NO. So, their relationships suffered, most got divorced, because "both" wanted their way, etc. It has nothing to do with the bible.

Answer 7

I personally find much more immorality in the Bible than morality. Why do Christian have to just pull out the cute stuff to teach their children from the bible. There is too damn much horror contained within that's why. You even water down the killing of Jesus then assure them its ok because he came back alive in just three days. xx
I know it is a Menorah a Jewish Star and a Christian Fish but the damn thing looks like a bomb.

Answer 8

In the country I went to school, Bibles have been out for more than a century, for everyone's benefit.

Answer 9

I can only say that in in Sept. 1999 thru June 2000, I taught in a public middle school. We started the day with the pledge of allegiance. The kids brought in knives and guns, used profanity, stole from one another as well as the teachers, used drugs and had sex in the bathrooms. September 2000-June 2001, I decided to teach in a Christian school. We started the day with prayer and readings from the Bible. The kids brought in knives and guns, used profanity, stole from one another as well as the teachers, used drugs, and had sex in the bathrooms. I went to public middle school in the late 1950s. We started the day with the pledge of allegiance. The biggest problem in our school was that the kids chewed gum. My best friend went to a Christian school and lived next door .Her day started with saying prayers and reading the Bible. The biggest problem in her school was that the kids chewed gum. Draw from this what you will.

Answer 10

Respect for teachers and others was present. Swearing in the halls was pretty much non-existent. The idea of murder never crossed minds. Today children scream at their parents. Swearing is as natural as breathing. Murder seems to be getting rampant. I home school for this very reason. One last thing, the education system was a lot more informed and had more curriculum.

Answer 11

Primitive people had to have moral values. They had to distinguish between good actions and bad actions. In the absence of science, superstition and witchcraft first monopolized the precepts of morality for the tribe. Later, religions became the monopolies of moral education. This has been the prevalent way of thinking for thousands of years and humans have accepted the idea that morality and religion are practically synonymous. They are not. To teach moral precepts one must be able to use reason and logic very well. Religion deprives people from thinking this way. Atheism, per se’, does not do much better.

Morality has nothing to do with religion or atheism. God cannot provide morality for humans, they have to discover for themselves what morality is. For example, Christianity teaches that self-sacrifice for God is moral, that self-sacrifice is love, that punishing all the descendents of Adam for having disobeyed God is justice, and to ask Abraham to take his son Isaac to be sacrificed as an act of faith was a darn good idea, and a moral one at that!

An atheist might think that since God doesn’t tell us what is and what is not moral, we ought to take a vote and society and the majority can tell us what is moral; and finally, another way is to follow the principle of subjectivism and decide for ourselves, depending on whim and what we like or dislike. In this case, what’s moral for you might not be moral for me. But a subjective morality is precisely what allows any form of despotism to take root; because a subjective morality follows the immoral law of the end justifies the means.

Morality is needed to live happily. Without morality, the world turns into a battlefield. What humans require, in order to live happily, is not just any kind of moral guidance but objective morality. Objective morality is not provided by believing or not believing in God. It is, however, provided by reason and logic.

Without reason, one cannot be moral because without reason one cannot tie concepts to reality. Objective reasoning is the mental process of basing our conclusions on the evidence of the senses, on the facts of reality, and on logical proof. The standard for evaluating a moral value can only come from facts, not feelings. Since life is the ultimate objective standard of morality, to determine if a an action is moral or not it is necessary to determine if the action is good for living or if it is bad for living. Any action which requires self-sacrifice or the sacrifice of others for the benefit of somebody else whether God, society, or a person is an immoral act. If an action does not require the sacrifice of anybody, including self-sacrifice, it is a moral act. The value of life is what makes all objective evaluation possible.