2006-12-24 03:34:37 · 24 answers · asked by Kate the Saint 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
By uneducated, I mean not Ivy Leaguers
2006-12-24 03:40:59 · update #1
John Kerry spoke the truth: only those youth who cannot afford to go to college, or who don't work hard enough to stay in college, end up getting "stuck in Iraq". How many politicians' sons and daughters do you see serving on the front line of this illicit 'war'?? -RKO-
2006-12-24 03:37:25 · answer #1 · answered by -RKO- 7 · 2⤊ 9⤋
You make a good point in your modification. Your question itself is, of course, just wrong. The average service member is a bit better than the average American in education, family economic background, etc., so the answer in general terms is NO.
But very few Ivy League graduates enter military service any more. If you'll forgive an over-generalization, they seem to be on the leading edge of a new trend. Nations are becoming obsolete, and Ivy Leaguers will be the CEO's of the international corporations that will share world governance with other international organizations (like al Qaida) as "countries" become irrelevant.
2006-12-24 15:00:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes and no. When you go into the military you take a test. The scores and the opening the military needs at the time determine what training is offered to you. Low scores normally mean the infantry is offered to you. I have met college education enlisted soldiers who chose to join the infantry. That didn't mean their scores were low it meant they wanted the job. I have found these men to be some of the most physically fit and tactically proficient warriors in the world. In a war where there is a front line the infantry is up on that line. Iraq has no front line. All officers have at least a four year degree and I have met enlisted soldiers with master degrees. There are doctors, nurses and a number of other profesions found in Iraq. These men and women chose to serve for as many reason as there are men and women in the military. Some want money for college. Some are lost and are looking to find themselves, some want adventure. Some want to see othe parts of the world. Some feel that serving their country is what they need to do, some go in because they need a job, some are running from problems at home. While it is true most of the lower enlisted soldiers do not have college, the military encourages everyone to gain an education. It has some of the most creative ways to help soldiers that are to be found anywhere and the cost is paid for by the military.
2006-12-24 12:04:20 · answer #3 · answered by cece 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hardly. It's true that many young people from poorer backgrounds join the military, for training and education, but that means they get pretty well trained and educated. It's more accurate to say that many of those who don't have other opportunities due to straitened financial circumstances get stuck on the front lines, and some wind up paying very dearly for it. That's why, in a volunteer military, there are so few wealthy families represented.
2006-12-24 11:58:33 · answer #4 · answered by functionary01 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No, its not true. I had a 4.0 GPA througout high school, scored a 1450 on the SAT, was third highest ranked in my graduating class, and had 7 scholarship offers. I turned them down to join the Marines on my 18th birthday and went to boot camp 3 weeks later. I've been in almost 8 years, I love what I'm doing and wouldn't want to be anywhere else in the world besides where I am right now. The point I'm trying to make is that we are not uneducated or any less smart than anyone in any "ivy league" school. Who made that the standard for a "smart" person. I've known my share of "above average IQ" people who didn't have the basic common sense to cross a street without getting ran over. How useful to society are they? We are in the military to serve our country. I'm in Iraq because I want to be here, not because I'm not smart enough to be somewhere else. I didn't have to come over for a second tour, I was offered out of it, but volunteered to come here. And I will continue to serve our country and defend your right to call us whatever you want to. If that makes me uneducated, then so be it.
Merry Christmas from Iraq!
2006-12-24 11:52:46 · answer #5 · answered by Marine08 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I choose to be where I am and am darn proud of it. I have a Masters Degree in Physics from a well known university (not Ivy league...but i didn't know that Ivy league were the only educated people...P.S. Einstein didn't go to the IVY league). I am an SNCO in the USMC...a front liner...now a Master Gunnery Sergeant...not an officer. I had the choice to go to OCS but chose to be where I am. I love what I do and what I stand for. I'm not alone...many many men and women in our armed forces have an education or joined so they can get an education (isn't that the sign of an educated person...knowing and seeking out additional education?). So I say to you...NO..John Kerry wasn't accurate and his statements were leftist rhetoric and shameful.
2006-12-24 11:48:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
NO, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH! And the guy with no name on your profile, even the infantry grunts are educated as well. Girl, you're obviously stupid as hell. I know several enlisted folks who have masters degrees and one who's working on a PhD in political science.
John Kerry is an elitist schmuck who loves the taste of his own publicity.
And if they're uneducated, then Kerry must be as well because he served a combat tour in Viet Nam.
And Cherubim, for you information you arrogant chair warming S.O.B., I served on active duty for 10 years maggot, served in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Was one of 200 Navy SeaBees that did humanitarian work with the Kurds in norther Iraq after that conflict and saw first hand what a low life Saddam was.
Never was a recruiter, never was in an air conditioned office. If I was out in the field, it was hot. And in Desert Storm, I worked with a great deal of Uncle Sam's finest.........Unites States Marine Corps.
So shut up, stuff your face and go watch Oprah and Bill O'Reilly.
2006-12-24 13:27:19 · answer #7 · answered by Seattle SeaBee 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Not at all. My husband is a very intelligent man and has been on the front line serving our country for 9 years. Just because some people decide their call for duty is greater than their call for a higher education does not mean they are uneducated. I have a master's degree and my husband is every bit as smart as I am, and his experience in the army have given him and education beyond whatever you could hope to learn in your books, beyond what I could ever hope to learn from books....
Maybe you need to educate yourself and enlist and serve with the intelligent brave men and women rather than insult them and berate them and maybe you can hope to be smart one day too....
2006-12-26 13:49:25 · answer #8 · answered by Roman Esteban Due April 12 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most of the enlisted in the military are straight out of high school and definitely do not come from ivy league schools. But, they are not uneducated.
2006-12-24 20:58:53 · answer #9 · answered by j 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No - many of those on the front lines are educated, smart, strong, beautiful, - everything. What i do wonder about is whether they are lied to. A person who is misled is not uneducated or stupid. In fact the most dangerous people in the world are the smart and strong who are misled into a position that actually hurts more than it helps. So I don't feel they are stupid but i do feel bad for them. That's why I don't volunteer. I can easily trust those around me on the front lines, but I do not trust (not even a little bit) those who send me there. Not anymore.
2006-12-24 11:38:49 · answer #10 · answered by Another Garcia 5 · 3⤊ 2⤋
No! In todays military you will find young men and women on the front lines who have 4 year college degrees and who are enlisted.
I have never heard the speach that Kerry gave but if he didn't mean what he said (which was a joke he got wrong) then why did it take him so long to apologize.
2006-12-24 11:39:28 · answer #11 · answered by Raptork9 2 · 4⤊ 1⤋