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Is the Father and the Son one ? IF they are one , then why do we have a father and a son ? Does'nt the Father and the Son mean that they are two ?

How can we say that God is " the One" , if we have "TWO" the Father and the Son ?

Who is the "ONE" is it God or is it Jesus ?

If God is the "ONE:", than what about Jesus, is'nt he God ??

If Jesus is God, than who is the one in the heavens ?
If you say God, does that mean that there is a God on earth and a God in the Heavens ?? Can something be in two places at once ?

If they are "both" Gods ? Than who was Jesus praying to ?
Was he praying to himself ?
If you say no, that means that he prays to another God not himself ? Than how come we say Jesus is God, if He prays to God "another one" ?

2006-12-23 18:19:38 · 26 answers · asked by ajhe_82 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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‘But isn’t Jesus called a god in the Bible?’ someone may ask. This is true. Yet Satan is also called a god. (2 Corinthians 4:4) At John 1:1, which refers to Jesus as “the Word,” some Bible translations say: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But notice, verse 2 says that the Word was “in the beginning with God.” And while men have seen Jesus, verse 18 says that “no man hath seen God at any time.” (Authorized or King James Version) So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.”

Did Jesus ever say that he was God? No, he never did. Rather, in the Bible he is called “God’s Son.” And he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” Also, Jesus explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that only God knew. (Mark 13:32) Further, on one occasion Jesus prayed to God, saying: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he? In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32) Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons. Even after his death and resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus was still not equal to his Father.


As for the “Holy Spirit,” the so-called third Person of the Trinity, this is not a person but God’s active force. John the Baptizer said that Jesus would baptize with holy spirit, even as John had been baptizing with water. Hence, in the same way that water is not a person, holy spirit is not a person. (Matthew 3:11) What John foretold was fulfilled when, following the death and resurrection of Jesus, holy spirit was poured out on his followers gathered in Jerusalem. The Bible says: “They all became filled with holy spirit.” (Acts 2:4) Were they “filled” with a person? No, but they were filled with God’s active force. Thus the facts make clear that the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Actually, long before Jesus walked the earth gods were worshiped in groups of three, or trinities, in places such as ancient Egypt and Babylon.

2006-12-23 18:55:37 · answer #1 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 0

This question is asked many times here.

What you refer too is the mystery of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). Mystery as in something to be explored to be understood...not that it can not be understood, because I know that it can.

They are three in One. They have three different functions. God the Father is Spirit and the Head of the Trinity. Jesus is/was God in the flesh/natural. and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God that dwells within us. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are subordinate to God the Father but not less than God the Father.

In Genesis Chapter 1, when God said let us make man in our image, Our refers to the triune being. We too are a triune being...body, mind and spirit.

The word Trinity does not show up in the Biblical text, however in Matthew 28, Jesus is telling His disciples to go out to all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. (Trinity)

I would recommend to read the book of John (fourth book of the New Testament). Once you've read it...read it again. Pay close attention to Chapter 1, verses 1-5 and then verse 14. It's really a great book.

Merry Christmas!!!

2006-12-24 02:30:09 · answer #2 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 0 1

CORRECT!

BUT YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE HOLY GHOST WHO CAME DOWN AS A DOVE OR THE DOVE WHO CAME DOWN AS THE HOLY GHOST.

Father and son as one means that the son also shared the sex for the "begotten son" which holds God guilty of incest with his mother.

3nitty is actually 13 gods becase it says each is 1 and 3 and that makes 3x4=12 and the big 1 that is 3 make a total of 13.

The only miracle that is reported by all 4 Gospels is the feeding of the 5000 with 5 loaves and 2 fish : 5+5+2=12 again, and there were 12 baskets of fragments remaining, why?, because the Father is Zeus and the son is Jezeus who is the Sun God of Greek mythology.

the Sun gives us 12 months in the year (?) and the 4 Gospels are the 4 Seasons of the year.

Abrakedabra!

AMEN!

2006-12-24 02:35:41 · answer #3 · answered by mythkiller-zuba 6 · 0 1

I believe in the holy trinity, the father, son, and the spirit. I think those are all the correct names, of course I could just believe in it because 3 is my fav number, but then again maybe 3 has always been my favorite number because I have always believed. haha-

Anyway. God is God, Jesus is Jesus. God is in heaven, Jesus was born of this earth to do God's biding. here is the catch. We all have biding to do for God. We all have a little part of God in us, that does not make us god, and it did not make jesus god. He was a man, human, just like you and me. Who knows he might of even said a swear word or two when he stubbed his toe.

The simple fact that Jesus prayed to god shows that he was not infact god, but another son of God. Are we not also called his sons and daughter? Jesus called us all brothers and sister, did he not?

Do not stress to much about it all, I used to, then when I relaxed and listend instead of constant questioning, God would answer my questions.

2006-12-24 02:27:44 · answer #4 · answered by allaboutme_333 3 · 0 1

Here is where the many Bible translators are going to be in trouble.

The tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew consonants that represent the divine name in the Hebrew Scriptures. The English pronunciation is Jehovah.

If you look into somewhat older King James Versions you will find God's name at Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Isaiah 26:4

However, if you look in a newer KJV you will not find it there, now explain that?

Then, when the Trinitarians throw in the "holy spirit" as being a God then you have three not just the two you are trying to deal with.

Notice some info about the Trinity & multiple deities in other religions:

Egypt was an ultrareligious land, rife with polytheism. Every city and town had its own local deity, bearing the title “Lord of the City.” A list found in the tomb of Thutmose III contains the names of some 740 gods. (Ex 12:12) Frequently the god was represented as married to a goddess who bore him a son, “thus forming a divine triad or trinity in which the father, moreover, was not always the chief, contenting himself on occasion with the role of prince consort, while the principal deity of the locality remained the goddess.” (New Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, 1968, p. 10) Each of the chief gods dwelt in a temple that was not open to the public. The god was worshiped by the priests who awoke him each morning with a hymn, bathed him, dressed him, “fed” him, and rendered him other services. (Contrast Ps 121:3, 4; Isa 40:28.) In this the priests were apparently regarded as acting as the representatives of the Pharaoh, who was believed to be a living god himself, the son of the god Ra. This situation certainly emphasizes the courage shown by Moses and Aaron in going before Pharaoh to present him with the decree of the true God and adds significance to Pharaoh’s disdainful response, “Who is Jehovah, so that I should obey his voice?”—Ex 5:2.
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The falcon held a very prominent place in the religion of Egypt. It became the symbol of Horus, the falcon-headed god of Egypt, who, together with Isis and Osiris, formed the principal trinity or “holy family” among Egypt’s gods and goddesses. The falcon symbol was always used in writing the title of the Pharaohs, and in some cases, these rulers were considered to be incarnations of Horus. Of the hundreds of mummified birds found in Egypt, the falcon, particularly the kestrel, is among the most numerous. Herodotus said that anyone killing a falcon in Egypt, even though accidentally, was put to death.
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An ancient cuneiform inscription reads: “Altogether there are in Babylon 53 temples of the chief gods, 55 chapels of Marduk, 300 chapels for the earthly deities, 600 for the heavenly deities, 180 altars for the goddess Ishtar, 180 for the gods Nergal and Adad and 12 other altars for different gods.”—Quoted in The Bible as History (New York, 1964), W. Keller, p. 301.
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Regarding Babylon:

There were triads of gods, and among their divinities were those representing various forces of nature and ones that exercised special influence in certain activities of mankind. (Babylonian and Assyrian Religion, Norman, Okla.; 1963, S. H. Hooke, pp. 14-40) “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato’s] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

2006-12-24 02:38:49 · answer #5 · answered by Livin In Myrtle Beach SC 3 · 0 1

The preachers make much hay with this one. Far as I'm concerned, the Bible makes it clear that there are 3 separate entities. The Father, who created all we know, the Son whom the Father sent to save those who were not Hebrews, and the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus sent when he ascended to Heaven. I'm fully aware that MANY disagree with this stand, but I choose to believe the Bible, not some interpretation thereof.

2006-12-24 02:27:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

2006-12-24 02:25:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

One GOD but three figures make up that God. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Think of it as you would a team. A team has many players on it but they still compose one team. Five players compose a basketball team, but they are one team. No longer five separate people but one separate team=5 in 1. God is about the same way.

2006-12-24 02:28:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

You and your father together with your mother and siblings make one family. Now, do not confuse yourself more because if have read Egyptian, Roman and Greek mythologies,perhaps it will not be so confusing for you to understand the Catholic Doctrine of Trinity or the Three Hindu Goddess Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. I knew how I can explain that three personalities of One God of the Catholics but all I have to say to you at this point in time...IT IS A DECEPTION and do not bother learning about it.....go to this website...www.thename.ph

2006-12-24 02:32:16 · answer #9 · answered by Rallie Florencio C 7 · 0 1

It depends on who you ask. Although the bible suggests that Christ is only God's son, Christians believe that Christ fulfilled the prophecy of being the messiah. Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, we are all equally ignorant on this topic because no one ( but God) knows the absolute truth.

2006-12-24 02:31:33 · answer #10 · answered by Mariya F 2 · 0 0

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