Is this an accurate representation of the current homophobia situation?

Question

"Just recently my son Bobby came out to me. I had been worried for awhile. His teachers said most of his grades were slipping and he seemed depressed and withdrawn.

Bobby said he'd been hiding it for awhile because he was afraid I would reject him. I sat him down and told him that I loved him and that God loved him, but that his salvation was in danger if he did not resist his unnatural tempations. I told him how being gay would mean he would live a shorter life, and that if he couldnt change his orientation he could be celibate like most the ex-gays are. He started crying saying something along the lines of "I knew you wouldnt understand! You're just like everyone else!" before running to his room and slamming the door.

What did I do wrong? I dont want to lose my son, but I fear I already have. I talked it over with his therapist, who had the ludicrous idea that homosexuality was unchangable and that trying to repress could lead to lots of psychological damage (I've dropped him and will try to be finding another therapist with more moral beliefs). I wouldnt be surprised if he's the one who's feeding my son all the homosexual propaganda about how its 'ok' to be gay. That, or how homosexuality has engulfed the media, making it seem 'cool' and 'hip' and how they were just another oppressed minority. You didnt have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv at my age! I dont want to sound like a fanatic, but Im worried what other effects will come out of this increasingly secular, immoral society obsessed with filth.

Am I too late? Or is it possible to save my son


[Note: The thread this originally came from indicates that this boy eventually took his own life.]"

taken from http://www.fstdt.com/, a database of the comments of the bigots, ignoramuses, etc that are fundies/christians/religious fanatics. Sister sites include Rascists stdt (say the darndest things) and Conspiracy Theorists stdt.

No, I am not sure if the person in question is a mother or a father. I assume it is a mother because the father would probably be more violent.

However, the son is dead. Killed himself because he was taught he was "broken".

So for those who say discrimination doesn't harm people, I have reason to disagree.

So I ask: Who was in the wrong? The mother/father who was indoctrined with the Bible? Or the child who couldn't help being himself and killed himself to "get rid of the filth on the world"?

So I ask: Who was in the wrong? The mother/father who was indoctrined with the Bible? Or the child who couldn't help being himself and killed himself to "get rid of the filth on the world"?

Oh, and this is not my son, I found it at the Fundies say the Darndest Things site. I also think it is horrible, and that being gay is only a sin in the eyes of the bigots.

http://www.fstdt.com/ is mostly an atheist site, although religious people who aren't bigots and aren't ignorant are also frequent patrons there. They do support animal rights, which I don't, but I think it is just a way to get money by advertising possible financers.

Answer 1

That is disturbing on so many levels. It's sick to think there are actually people like that-- who would choose God over their own flesh and blood. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't mind burning in Hell if it meant supporting my child and ensuring their happiness in life.

Answer 2

First of all. I am not gay nor do i have any close gay friends.

Wow...i must say im speechless when it comes to that lady who posted about how being a homosexual man means youre life span shortens. I'm surprise she didnt say that the AIDS virus spawns from homosexual intercourse.

Homosexuality is unchangeable. Your son really is attracted to men. Sure he can end up marrying a woman and then having a few kids. But he will not be sexually attracted to her. He is sexually attracted to men.

Why do you find it insane if he doesnt believe in your religion. If i were in your shoes, just live life, learn to accept him.

Answer 3

Sad.

As an aside, I also don't have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv. Not just because I don't have one, but also because I'm not a bigot. A few decades ago, some people were worried about seeing two people of different races kissing on TV; society (for the most part) has progressed past that.

Answer 4

Very much so.
No, it's not extremely common anymore to have homophobic parents, but most homophobes nowadays try to be more understanding. Though they cannot grasp being gay as something normal, they do recognize that their children are still just that--their children. They still love them. Instead of ostracizing and punishing and severing contact, they instead set out to change their children... to fix them. They treat homosexuality as a mental defect--a disease, rather than rebellion.

This particular example reads a bit too... open and easy... as if it were written by gay-advocates to display the internal struggle of a homophobic father, so it may seem unrealistic, but it is still an accurate portrayal of today's homophobia.

Answer 5

Your first mistake was you said he would loose his salvation Ephesians 2:8-10 clearly lets it be known you are saved by faith through grace alone. I am sure you have an acilles heal of sin which is the second mistake making one sin bigger than another. Heterosexuals having sex outside of marriage is just as bad as Homosexuals having sex. He needs to make a decision. Having sex witht he same sex is a sin. His decision is either to give into the spirit or the flesh. People die to the flesh daily in may sins other than being homosexual that isn't the only sin on planet earth. The important thing is to let him know you love him becuase God love us at our worst point even when we sin he still loves us but he is also holy and cannot dwell with sin. He will not force you to make the correct decision because he wants you to come to him of his own free volition. Your son needs unconditional love however under your roof he has to abide by your rules. If he wishes to be a praticing homosexual then he is making an adult decision and will get all the priviliges and responsibilities of adulthood like making all your own choices and paying all your own bills. This way you give him the option if he feels that he needs to be homosexual then he can but he must draw himself out from under your authority becaue your house is a house of God. Your love for him however should never change. This is what I would do If One of my children came to me and said they were gay. Are you a single mom? So you don't even know the other details of the senario because you got it from a website. There is more there than meets the eye.

Answer 6

Wow that's really horrible.

I wonder if a parent was straight out faced with the question of their child being gay their whole life or dying that moment, how many would choose death and how many gay?
That doesn't just address Christians either I'm talking everyone. You want your child to do right but at what price? For that parent the price was his/her son's life. I wonder if he/she even feels guilty?

Answer 7

I see a note saying your son may have committed suicide and if that is the case then I am sorry for your loss. If however your son is still with you it is not too late. According to the bible the fall of man had nothing to do with homosexuality. I bring this up to point out that the penalty of sin is death all sin not just any one in particular. I am a sinner saved by grace but a sinner none the less. We are all sinners and I dont recall homosexuality being the unforgivable sin.

Yes the Bible says it is an abomination but it is still a sin that God forgives. The stigma attached to some sins is human and not godly his sin is no worse than yours. God does not look down at hetero fornication with pride like some earthly fathers and say "thats my boy" and then look at another sinner with disgust because its a homosexual sin.

We need to understand that what the word sin means is to miss the mark of Gods perfection not to be a bad boy or girl. The original greek word was used in archery contest to let people who shot at targets that were so far away that youcould see the target but not the arrow. If someone missed the target a spotter would yell out a greek word that we translate "SIN"
we all mis the mark God knew when he made us we would thats why The Son had to come to earth and pay the price for all sin. Its unfortunet how Homosexuals are ostrisized by christians but it is all to common.
Love your son let him know that his temptation to have sex out side of Gods desighn and plan CAN be fun and Fullfilling like any sexual sin BUT it misses the mark of Gods plan for procreation You cant say two men living in sin can never be happy because many are but you can tell him that neither he or you are defined by our sin. No one IS homosexual the live a life missing the mark as we all do.

The real isue is pride when the created declare they dont care what God says my sin isnt wrong Sure there is a stronger temptation for some in certain areas. The urge and desire are real and fullfilling them can be gratifying But Men who enjoy homosexuality can give it up and find love in a hetero sexual relationship if they are willing to deny thier urges and let themself fall in love with a woman and work at the relationship. The love comes the love creates an atraction wich willlead to sexual satisfaction . Yes the temptation may allways be there but it like any sin can be overcome.

It is important that you let your son know that despite what anyone says that there is a difference between disagreeing with someone is not the same as rejecting them. He disagrees with your point of view about his sin does that mean he cant accept you as you are, no and it doesnt mean you cant accept him as he is if you disagree with him.

After I got saved I fell in sexual sin And Gods forgiveness was there for me when I came to Him confessing my sin. This went on for a while but eventualy I was deliverd. If I had been ostrisized and made to feel dirty and unwannted I would never have made it out of that sin and I may have rejected Jesus. encurage your son to seek a relationship with the Lord and keep him in prayer. As he learns of Gods love and acceptance wich is just as real for every sinner no matter the sin, beside rejecting the Holy Spirits witness of Christ,He will come to agree with his loving and forgiving Father in heaven. Ther is no reason for any of the lost to stay lost. and there is no reason for you to loose your son

Answer 8

"Homophobia" is a ridiculous term. It brands those who disagree with this destructive behavior as having an irrational fear. This is a lie. It is an abomination for two people of the same sex to be together as if they were of the opposite sex. This is a wicked world and older people who practice this behavior prey on others especially those who are younger. I despise what is being done to my country in the name of freedom. Lawless godless behavior is being lifted up as something good and those who practice it as standing up against injustice while those who declare the truth are branded as ignorant bigots. This is calling evil good, and good evil. I stand up for the truth. Homosexuality is a lie.

Answer 9

Yes, that is a typical homophobe. And that's why LGBT youth have a suicide rate 3 times the national average for young adults.

Answer 10

This boy reportedly started becoming depressed, and started doing worse in school, BEFORE he "came out" to his mother.

So, whatever emotional problems he may have had, it's unfair to blame them on his "homophobic" mother. Not if the problems started BEFORE she even knew he was gay.

I think that what his mother told him was spot on -- she told him that she loved him, but that she couldn't approve of such a medically dangerous lifestyle.

After all, the average American gay man lives to a "ripe old age" of 41. Two-pack-a-day smokers, on average, live longer than that. Enough said.

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