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in the book of daniel he descibes his dream which has a great battle between these two kings what does this represent

2006-12-23 07:19:59 · 7 answers · asked by zachary b 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Among the participants in this drama have been Syrian King Seleucus I Nicator, Egyptian King Ptolemy Lagus, Syrian Princess and Egyptian Queen Cleopatra I, Roman Emperors Augustus and Tiberius, and Palmyrene Queen Zenobia. As the conflict nears its end, Nazi Germany, the Communist bloc of nations, the Anglo-American World Power, the League of Nations, and the United Nations have also been involved. The finale is an episode unforeseen by any of these political entities. Jehovah’s angel declared this exciting prophecy to the prophet Daniel some 2,500 years ago.—Daniel, chapter 11.

The drama is of interest to us as well, for the power struggle between the two kings stretches into our day. Seeing how history has shown the first part of the prophecy to be true will strengthen our faith and confidence in the certainty of fulfillment of the last part of the prophetic account. Paying attention to this prophecy will give us a clear view of where we are in the stream of time. It will also fortify our resolve to remain neutral in the conflict as we patiently wait for God to act in our behalf. (Psalm 146:3, 5 -

The designations “the king of the north” and “the king of the south” refer to kings north and south of the land of Daniel’s people.

Since the designations “the king of the north” and “the king of the south” are titles, they can refer to any ruling entity, including a king, a queen, or a bloc of nations.

KINGS IN DANIEL 11:5-19

The King The King
of the North of the South

Daniel 11:5 Seleucus I Nicator Ptolemy I

Daniel 11:6 Antiochus II Ptolemy II
(wife Laodice) (daughter Berenice)

Daniel 11:7-9 Seleucus II Ptolemy III

Daniel 11:10-12 Antiochus III Ptolemy IV

Daniel 11:13-19 Antiochus III Ptolemy V
(daughter Cleopatra I) Successor:
Successors: Ptolemy VI
Seleucus IV and
Antiochus IV

KINGS IN DANIEL 11:20-26:

The King The King
of the North of the South

Daniel 11:20 Augustus

Daniel 11:21-24 Tiberius

Daniel 11:25, 26 Aurelian Queen Zenobia

The foretold The Germanic Britain,
breakdown Empire followed by the
of the Roman Anglo-American
Empire leads to World Power.
the formation of:

KINGS IN DANIEL 11:27-31

The King of The King of
the North the South

Daniel 11:27-30a German Empire Britain, followed by
(World War I) the Anglo-American
World Power

Daniel 11:30b, 31 Hitler’s Third Reich Anglo-American
(World War II) World Power.

The final campaign of the king of the north is not directed against the king of the south. Therefore, the king of the north does not come to his end at the hands of his great rival. Similarly, the king of the south is not destroyed by the king of the north. The king of the south is destroyed, “without human hand,” by God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 8:25 - In fact, at the battle of Armageddon, all earthly kings are to be removed by God’s Kingdom, and this evidently is what happens to the king of the north. (Daniel 2:44) Daniel 11:44, 45 describes events leading up to that final battle. No wonder “there will be no helper” when the king of the north meets his end!


KINGS IN DANIEL CHAPTER 11

The King of The King of
the North the South

Daniel 11:5 Seleucus I Nicator Ptolemy I

Daniel 11:6 Antiochus II Ptolemy II
(wife Laodice) (daughter Berenice)

Daniel 11:7-9 Seleucus II Ptolemy III

Daniel 11:10-12 Antiochus III Ptolemy IV

Daniel 11:13-19 Antiochus III Ptolemy V
(daughter Cleopatra I) Successor: Ptolemy VI
Successors:
Seleucus IV and
Antiochus IV

Daniel 11:20 Augustus

Daniel 11:21-24 Tiberius

Daniel 11:25, 26 Aurelian Queen Zenobia
The Roman Empire
breaks down

Daniel 11:27-30a German Empire Britain, followed by
(World War I) the Anglo-American
World Power

Daniel 11:30b, 31 Hitler’s Third Reich Anglo-American
(World War II) World Power

Daniel 11:32-43 Communist bloc Anglo-American
(Cold War) World Power

Daniel 11:44, 45 Yet to rise Anglo-American
World Power

The prophecy in Daniel chapter 11 does not foretell the names of the political entities that occupy the positions of the king of the north and the king of the south at various times. Their identities become known only after the events start to occur. Moreover, since the conflict occurs in episodes, there are intervals of no conflict—one king holds sway while the other remains inactive.
Who will be this king when Daniel 11:44, 45 is fulfilled? Will he be identified with one of the countries that were part of the former Soviet Union? Or will he change identity completely, as he has done a number of times before? Will the development of nuclear weapons by additional nations result in a new arms race and have a bearing on the identity of that king? Only time will provide answers to these questions. For more details, you can obtain the book 'Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy!' publication.

If you would like further information or a free home Bible study, please contact Jehovah's Witnesses at the local Kingdom Hall. Or visit http://www.watchtower.org

2006-12-23 10:51:06 · answer #1 · answered by Jeremy Callahan 4 · 3 0

While it is true that the Seleucids fullfilled the role of the King of the North and the Ptolomies fullfilled the role of the King of the South it has yet another fullfillment in the Arabs as the King of the South and the Turkish Otoman Empire as the King of the North not pushing against each other but one after the other pushing or waging war on the Byzantine Empire.

2006-12-23 17:03:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

The King of the North is the dynasty of Seleucis, and the King of the South is the dynasty of Ptolemy. Most of the prophesies concerning the King of the South are about Ptolemy III.

2006-12-23 15:29:10 · answer #3 · answered by NONAME 7 · 0 1

Well the Snow Miser in the north, and the Heat Miser in the south. Didn't you ever watch Rudolf.

2006-12-23 15:22:48 · answer #4 · answered by Alex 6 · 0 1

You will have to wait for a Jehovah's witness to anwer this.

2006-12-23 15:22:45 · answer #5 · answered by sfumato1002 3 · 3 0

me first to post, yeee haaaa

2006-12-23 15:21:14 · answer #6 · answered by guru 2 · 0 3

me

2006-12-23 15:21:31 · answer #7 · answered by Dr. Brooke 6 · 0 3

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