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Apparently the photograph of the wall in the pentagon had an 18 foot hole in it after the crash, which makes it way, way to small a hole for a 757 to make. The engine is above the main body and not on the wings like a 757 which explains why there was no damage done to the Pentagon's outside wall that huge rolls royce engines would most certainly have made because they are localed on the wings. the hole looked like this O and should have looked like this o O o WHY?

2006-12-23 02:27:43 · 11 answers · asked by lovefights 3 in Politics & Government Military

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These are all very good observations on your part. A Global Hawk may have been used but there is strong evidence suggesting it was a Skywarrior. One thing we can be certain about; it was not a Boeing 757, as our government claims. Listen to this retired General, He says, "The Plane does not fit the hole; so what did hit the Pentagon...?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&eurl=

Whatever hit the Pentagon was under 85 feet long, much shorter than a Boeing 757, which is over 155 feet long. It also had to have landing gear and at least one jet engine since they were both found at the crash site. The Jet engine found may be key to finding out what type of aircraft hit the Pentagon. There is also a photo of a windshield that may provide a crucial clue as well. Witnesses say, the military secretly had a A-3 Skywarrior refitted with new jet engines, missiles, and a Global Hawk guidance system, just prior to 9/11.
http://tomflocco.com/fs/WitnessesLink.htm

As for the peculiar shape of the hole. The engine parts that were found are photographed outside of the building: They may never have penetrated the building thus no hole created by them. The deep eighteen foot hole that is seen was most probably created by an on board missile. A radiation expert claims high-radiation readings near the Pentagon indicates depleted uranium (DU) may have been used.
http://www.rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm


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The following is a more complete analysis.

This video, obtained by a public interest group, shows an aircraft hiding behind a call box. You can see its top rear fin and its exhaust trail, so you know it's back there. See video: Time = 00:25.
http://www.clipaday.com/2006/05/pentagon_plane_crash_from_sept.html

To figure out how long the aircraft is, that is hiding behind the call box; we can measure it by comparing it to surrounding objects of know sizes and with the help of a little geometry we can calculate the size of the aircraft.

The distances can be scaled from a satellite image of the pentagon, where each of the five walls is known to be 921.6 ft in length.
http://www.spaceimaging.com/gallery/9-11/Pentagon/Pentagon_9_12_01.jpg

The call box measurement was scaled from the video above, where the patrol car is know to be about. 16.5 ft in length.

The aircrafts length will be a ratio between the call box of 2.5 ft. is to 28.8 ft ( distance of camera to call box) as "The aircraft" is to 691.2 ft. (distance of camera to the aircraft). The resultant length will need to be multiplied by the "square root of 2 " (I.414) to take into account the 45 degree approach angle of the plane.

Plug in the numbers:
2.5' / 28.8' = "X" / 691.2'
2.5' x 691.2' / 28.8' = "X"
60' = "X"
60' x 1.414 = 84.84 feet maximum aircraft length.

A Boeing 757 is 155 ft. 3 in.
A Douglas A-3 Skywarrior is 76 ft. 4 in. *
A Global Hawk RQ-4 is 44 ft. 4.75 in. *
An Air launched Cruise Missile is 20 ft. 9 in.

The Skywarrior as well as the Global Hawk fit the bill well since they both have similar wheels and landing gear as found at the crash site. The Skywarrior is equipped with a Pratt & Whitney JT8D jet engine while the Global Hawk is equipped with a Rolls Royce / Allison F137 jet engine. Both can be equipped with a remote pilot which is capable of very difficult maneuvers as displayed by the aircraft in question. These web sites shows the crash site and photos of what was found there. Make special note of the jet engine part, found in the rubble: It is a front end rotor head design for the P&W (JT8D) and not any part from a Rolls-Royce jet engine. Also take special note of the photo of a cracked windshield found at the crash site.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
http://home.att.net/~carlson.jon/911Pentagon.htm

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The Following web sites show and tell about the Skywarrior and the Pratt & Whitney jet engine they employ.

A-3 Skywarrior
http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/a-3_skywarrior.pl

Missing Pentagon Jet Engine Identified?
http://www.rense.com/general63/ident.htm

P&W JT8D Front Compressor Front Hub Assembly
http://www.karlschwarz.com/02-02-05_Schwarz.pdf

The JT8D & A3 Skywarrior
http://www.rense.com/general70/jt.htm


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The Following web sites show and tell about the Global Hawk and the Rolls-Royce jet engine it uses.

Northrop Grumman (Teledyne Ryan) RG-4 Global Hawk
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app2/q-4.html

RG-4 Global Hawk Photo
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0138567&size=L

Rolls-Royce / Allison F137 - AD - 100 (model AE 3007H) Turbofan
http://www.afrl.af.mil/technologymilestones/2006/support_war/air/PR-S-06-05_NL.pdf
http://www.afrl.af.mil/accomprpt/feb06/Photos/feb_1a.jpg

2006-12-23 05:14:48 · answer #1 · answered by Joe_Pardy 5 · 1 3

1. Snopes already investigated this. So did numerous other experts.
2. There was plenty of damage done to the outside rings. Aerial shots show that yes, the damage was consistent with what a 757 would have done.
3. If it really was an unmanned drone, what happened to the people who had been on the 757?
4. WHY would the CIA do that? And HOW MANY would have to be in on it? And HOW would that many people be able to keep that kind of secret? What's in it for them?

2006-12-23 02:40:46 · answer #2 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 5 2

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2016-10-18 22:06:55 · answer #3 · answered by janovich 4 · 0 0

It most definitely was a 757 that hit the the Pentagon and they did find the remains of the plane on the inside of the building as well as on the outside and credible eyewitness on their way to work saw the plane hit the building and explode because of the fuel that was on board.
Click on these sites:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6

2006-12-23 04:06:53 · answer #4 · answered by Vagabond5879 7 · 2 1

Snopes, Popular Mechanics, and OTHERS have debunked this crap.

There were only 5 RQ-4 Global Hawks in existence at that time... and the military wouldn't WASTE a bird in that fashion !! USE some common freaking SENSE !!

The engines DO have mass... but pictures also show where ONE clipped a generator outside the building. They showed parts of the engine outside and inside the building.

2006-12-23 03:27:29 · answer #5 · answered by mariner31 7 · 5 1

Gee, I guess the ~400 military and civilian eyewitnesses in the immediate area of the attack were all so utterly incompetent and stupid that they were incapable of distinguishing a commercial airliner from a cruise missile.

I guess the charred corpses still strapped in their seats in the wreckage that were pulled out were all planted there by the CIA to make it look good.

Only a complete air head would believe this conspiracy theory BS.

2006-12-23 16:58:34 · answer #6 · answered by Dave_Stark 7 · 1 2

Considering that most defense testing fails, I don't we finally had one that worked!

Why an "O" instead of an "o O o"?

Maybe the plane fell apart prior to hitting.
Maybe other debris caused the hole.
Maybe the angle was wrong for your expected results.
Maybe Jack Bauer planted C4 in just one place.

And to be completely clear...you are then suggesting that WE rammed a missile into our own building resulting in death and damage...and for what gain? You think the Republicans saw no risk in going to war? You think they believed that a prolonged war would help their chances at re-election? You think we had some complicated conspiracy to spread democracy in the Middle East? You think the goal was $3.00 per gallon of gasoline?

I'd say the plan was flawed if that is what you suspect.

Now go back to looking for aliens.

2006-12-23 02:35:15 · answer #7 · answered by dm_dragons 5 · 6 2

Check out the research that was done by Popular Science debunking all the conspiracies related to 9-11. They did meticulous studies into almost all of these theories and not a one of them holds any water. Then again they may just be puppets of the Bush administration. Please, let's get past these stupid 9-11 conspiracies. They are ignorant and disgusting.

2006-12-23 02:41:56 · answer #8 · answered by Lyn 2 · 6 1

Please stop this nonsense. The holes in the towers were smaller than a passenger plane, so were those drones and A6s too? Were the towers not hit at all? I forgot, they were remote controlled planes. Enough is enough. Do not spit on the graves of the brave men and women who have given thier lives.

2006-12-23 05:49:04 · answer #9 · answered by mferunden 2 · 3 2

Yawn. Another conspiracy theorist. I can guide you to a place to get a great tin foil hat if you like.

2006-12-23 02:35:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

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