Jesus of Nazareth....unemployed hippy agitator or what?

Question

Long haired bearded North African unemployed beatnik going around claiming to be the Messiah and playing games called "miracles", or Blue-eyed white man in long flowing robes.
If anyone else tried to act like that today would crucifiction still be the best punishment or would he be sent for psychiatric tests and kept out of the way?

Answer 1

Semi- agree with you, look in my questions, you will see i asked a similar question and pissed off a whole bunch of people by accident

Answer 2

There were hundreds of religious cranks around the Holy Land, and to the Roman authorities and the Jewish hierarchy, Jesus was exactly that.

A bit of a hippy and revolutionary he may have been, but no-one else has had quite the same impact on the world, and no-one else has ever loved people to the same extent.

I suppose he proved that not all hippies are bad people.

Answer 3

Jesus of Nazareth is the Son of God.
He was a carpenter - the trade he learnt from his foster-father Joseph - according to Jewish custom. He also became an itinerent teacher and preacher.
He died to save you from your sins - if you truly believe - John 3:16
Be careful - He will not be mocked.
One day you will stand before God, on Judgement Day, and answer for your comments.

Answer 4

You have so much hatred, that you can't even put your question into a form of a question. Now you say that Jesus was playing so called games, Then you must be a game also, There is 2 kinds of games, One is a substance or a thing that you make or someone created to amuse yourself the other game is something you shoot & eat. To me you are neither one.

Answer 5

religion(christianity) is just a big scam started by some guys in an ancient pub. its just a book about some doctor who has done a few things that at the time was a miracle. jesus was just a smart doctor whos story was "edited" to sell the book.
like in schools you can punch a guy, and in twenty minutes you can have fifty students who would swear you shot him a "roger'd" his mother.


if a guy said he was jesus and he lands in hackney he aint gettin out no matter who his father is.

Answer 6

I think He was Jewish and if He did miracles today, I don't know why He would be punished. It would be more of a reason to believe that He was The Messiah.

Answer 7

Acording to middle eastern tales and legends, he was not unemployed . He was a carpenter by trade.

Answer 8

My Great Lord Jesus was indeed employed. He was a Teacher, a Rabbi.

Answer 9

Three Kinds of Guides
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Taken from the article

http://www.intermirifica.org/pentecost/gifts.htm

There are three types of guides that may direct a person's life.



1) the whim of the moment. Aristotle in his Ethics 1.5 says that to act that way is a life fit for cattle. They do just what they happen to feel like doing.

2) Reason, which in practice is always aided by actual graces, which God gives so generously. This means acting in a fully reasonable way, and not just following the grooves as it were. For example, suppose I see three options open to me. Ideally I would make at least mentally a list of the good points and of the bad points of each. Then I would look over the whole board, and pick what gives the best effect for me. Or if I come to think I need penance for my sins, I would ask: How much have I sinned, so I can know how much penance? what kind of penance will fit with my health? with the obligations of my state in life? And after several steps, a decision is reached. This method is called discursive, it moves from one step to another.

3) In this highest way a soul does not go from one step to another in a discursive process, but the answer is, as it were, dropped fully made and complete into his mind by the Gifts.



The first type of guide is of the bum, the drifter, of the one who does not want to work or take responsibility.

The second type is of the responsible man or woman who uses reason and will power to do his or her duty in life.

The third type is of the person in union with God, in which that person lives by the will of God moment by moment. He or she does not adhere to any system (except where duty or obedience commands it), but lives in a freedom beyond systems.


The thing is, because of their superficial similarity, 3) is often confused with 1).

Those living in the divine will are often accused of neglecting their duty, because "duty" in that case is what is expected by the culture in which they live, which is not necessarily the same as what is expected in one's vocation in life according to God's will.

So those of the highest virtue, often have the cross of being accused of being deficient in virtue because the contemplative is confused with the bum.


Often the saints have had the cross of *irony.* This means that they were accused of the vice that was precisely the opposite of the virtue that they shined in.

Our Lord is the first example of this, as being the Son of God, as being the Word made flesh, He was accused of being a blasphemer.


Transcendence is often confused with the sub-standard.

Suprageometric order is often confused with the subgeometric disorder of the garbage dump.

That is because, due to the superficial eye of the natural man, he cannot distinguish them, because both depart from what he is accustomed to as being order.

However, one departure from conventional order is below that and the other departure is above that.


Bruce Lee, who was both an outstanding martial artist and philosopher said that the same thing applies in the martial arts.

He said that the untrained man fights with no proper form.

With expert training in the martial arts, all the defensive and offensive moves have a tremendous form and technique to them.

But above that is the master of martial arts. He is no longer confined to particular forms, but his limbs have the freedom to block and counterattack with whatever motion is needed to do that most effectively.

The lowest is superficially similar to the highest, but there is a universe of difference between them.


Bruce Lee put it this way with a subtlety of expression.

The lowest is to *fight without form.*

The highest is to fight *without form.* (those are paraphrases, but capture the exact idea he conveyed).

We can see the difference in the subtle change in emphasis between the two.

He said that the first was immaturity and the second was transcendence (again paraphrasing)


Often, the difference between the lowest and the highest is a matter of extreme subtlety, as there is a very fine cleavage between good and evil.


Jim McCrea
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Answer 10

You should know, O' creatures of Allah, that a believer should be distrustful of his heart every morning and evening. He should always blame it (for shortcomings) and ask it to add to (its good acts). You should behave like those who have gone before you and the precedents in front of you. They left this world like a traveller and covered it as distance is covered.