Abrahamic= against learning, and knowledge?

Question

In older traditions, the serpent [snake] has been equated with life, death [both, at the same time], and wisdom. In the Abrahamic faiths, the snake brings death to th living, as well as knowledge. Now, bringing death was a result of being cast out of Eden, therefore we can place this as an "Unintended," [I use that loosely, as it was intended, but not the primary thing] consequence.

Now, the real nit pick is the knowledge. Before this, man could be classified as ignorant. The Snake delivers the knowledge needed for man, inspite of causing them to leave perfection. "Ignorance is easier, but it is bliss," applies here. So, in this regard, the Abrahamic God, implies he states his followers be ignorant of things, while at the same time having free will. How is that free will, when a person dosen't know enough to make a descision? Should the snake be seen as freedom in this story? Like the first messiah from YHVH?

Abrahamic= against learning, and knowledge?

Please, share your observation

Mainworry, life is not the issue. I would rather live 75 years, knowing, than spend eternity in ignorant bliss.

Brian, Science is an use of what was gained at the tree. Classification, etc.

How was the knowledge corrupt? Christ has knowledge of the same things, yet he was/is sinnless, as is YHVH.

answer number 4, please read the first sentence. The serpent being a symbol of eternity represents both.

16 hours, and 4 answers. None of them satisfactory.

to me, the observed point was that knowing anything was a sin within Abrahamic religions, as that was the entire issue.

The Serpent brought salvation from ignorance, and was punished by a cruel, spiteful deity.

The knowledge could not have been corrupt, as Jesus [sinless as a mortal, and he knew it] as well as God [Recall, he is incapable of sin as well].

Existance comes with a price, one must not depend entirely on another for all things, one must be responsible for their actions [shown in the casting down].

Therefore, the original light of Humanity was The Serpent, not Christ.

This story is purely symbolic. Don't forget that. Unless you can prove it was written by Addam or Eve themselves [Which, it wasn't. It was by Moses, closely resembling creation myths of Egypt], you cannot trust in it's validity on things.

Answer 1

But you are forgetting the tree of life.

They ate (assimilated or consumed knowledge) from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Satan).

That's why God said;

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

We all must eat (assimilate or consume knowledge) of the tree of life (Jesus Christ), to live for ever.

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Answer 2

First, the snake also represents life. Remember Moses and the serpent on the poll. Those that looked, lived.
Here we see the devil taking something that is good and corrupting it.
As to the wisdom part, we don't know all the facts. We could just as easily assume that God could not force man to partake of the fruit, as that would go against free will. The command not to partake of it is merely saying, don't eat this, because if you do, you will die. But it is given to you for you to choose. I think that if man had not partaken of the fruit and gained knowledge, it would have frustrated the plan of God.
I could go on and on about this, but just wanted to point out that we have a partial story about something that happened a long time ago. God doesn't care too much for history, just the meaning we take out of it. I suppose instead of nit picking about snakes and knowledge, we should be asking, what does God want me to learn about myself and my relationship with Him from this story.

I read your first sentence where you say that in "older traditions, the serpent" represents both. However, you then say that Abrahamic faiths see the snake as bringing death and knowledge. I am pointing out that the way it is worded sounds as if you are saying that in Abrahamic faiths the serpent only represents death, when in fact it also represents life. Your first two sentences are misleading.

Answer 3

The tree was the tree of knowledge of good and evil, or the tree of consciousness. It is a tree of "misleading" knowledge; bad knowledge.

According to the Bible, God commanded mankind to name the animals; according to the Qur'an, to name the plants and animals. That's botany, zoology--science! He encourages us to increase knowledge and find the truth. The tree you refer to was "corrupted knowledge"--knowledge of lies, hate, etc.

The corrupt knowledge was the lie itself. If your teacher tells you the truth, then that's good knowledge. However, if your teacher tells you a lie but claims it to be true, then that is corrupt knowledge. By my interpretation, that's what the serpent did.

EDIT: "How was the knowledge corrupt? Christ has knowledge of the same things, yet he was/is sinnless, as is YHVH."
But Adam and Eve chose to believe the lie and disobey God. The serpent fed them "corrupt knowledge"--corrupt because it contradicted the truth God had provided--and they disobeyed God. Jesus never did, even when he was tempted for forty days and forty nights by Satan himself.

Answer 4

what older tradition is there than Adam and eve?
oh how the cunning get trapped in there own cunning.