whats the difference of catholic and born again?

Question

i dont get why born again are different from catholic though they use the same bible????????

Answer 1

Some of the answers here are along the correct line, some are just wrong, but all are lacking with respect to the question you asked. so let me try to answer in a logical manner.

1. Born Again does not refer to a denomination but rather more of a movement with in Christianity. Catholic in reference to the Roman Catholic Church means one that is in communion with the Bishop of Rome (the Pope). It ws implied earlier that Catholicism came out of the Eastern Orthodox Churches (IE Greek Orthodox, russian Orthodox, etc.) this is incorrect the Eastern Orthodox Churches officially split from the Roman Church in 1054 CE, this had more to do with empire lines of the day rather then theological differences, but this was the year both officially excommunicated each other. There has been a sort of reunification as communion is granted between the two churches.

2. Born agains and Catholics do not necessarily use the same bible. Someone aearlier implied that Catholics have altered the bible which is not correct historically. The first bible was compiled in the early Christian councils which were Roman and Catholic in the early 400's. That remains today the bible the Catholics use. In 1611 during the reformation periodsand before the 30 years war among the protestant factions the King James version of the bible which the council of protestant reformers removed 8 books which became known as the apocrypha they believed not to be divinely inspired, they remained in the Catholic version.

3. Earlier it was said that Christians believe they are all saved and Catholics think only the Catholic Church is the true Church. Post reformation the Catholic Church became very reactionary and did have this as a teaching. However Vatican II clearly came out with the teaching that all religion including non Christian religions are good and have graces of God, and that through God's grace all will be saved including non believers. Born Agains tend to only see Jesus as the saving grace and if you do accept him you are doomed.

4. The World Council of Churches classifies the doctrine of Christianity while born agains may agree many of the born agains would not fall under the World Council of Churches definition of Christianity as perhaps they do not follow the Niceane creed.

5. Born Agains believe once saved always saved, once you accept Jesus as your personal savior your salvation is assured, Jesus alone is responsible for your salvation. Catholics believe salvation is a gift and while you cannot earn it it is given freely, it is through misdeeds possible to lose it, you hold responsiblity through your actions for your salvation.

6. Sacramental practices. Born agains unlike Catholics and most Protestant religions do not have Sacraments like Baptism, Communion, etc. One of the most important differences between Catholics and other Christian religions is the belief in Transubstantiation. Catholic believe the bread and wine of communion are turned into the literal body and blood of Christ. Anglicans and Lutherans too I believe, believe in a quasi transubstantiation where it is the boddy and blood of Christ but not the same. Other Protestant religions see it as symbolic of the body and blood while most born agains do not particiapate in this or any other sacraments.

7. The concept of Saints and the Virgin Mary. Born Agains do not believe in Saints or the Virgin Mary necessarily as anything special. Many Protestant religions have the older saints, pre reformation but do not recognize the newer ones cannonized after the split. Eastern Orthodox recognizes all of the ones prior to the split and have cannonized others post 1054. Most protestants don't know this but some of their belief on Mary officially isn't all that different according to the cannons of their faith she is still venerated as something special being the Theotokos (God Bearer) which was declared in the early councils in the mid 400s and part of the doctrine the reformers took with them. It was believed theological during the middle ages with hugh debates that she had to remain free of original sin in order to produce Jesus, a perfect vessel cannot be born of a unperfect vessel. This became the Catholic doctrine of the immaculate Conception, Mary a very human person made by two parents but conieved without the taint of orginal sin. Many think Catholics worship Mary and Saints but they do not they venerate them which means to give them honor as they were living examples of what it means to be Christian, what it means to live in accordance with God and they are role models and can be assured they are in heaven. Many people say Catholics pray to Saints and not to God, this is also technically not true. They pray through saints asking the saints to pray for them. Many people do not understand this is no different then asking a friend on the street to pray for you, it is the same concept, except these are people that are believed to be in heaven.

8. Also the actual act of worship service, all Catholic and most Protestant denominations used the Revised COmmon Lectionary of readings which set for particular biblical reading each Sunday of the liturgical year, which usually the ministers homilies come from, assuring diverse discussions of the different elements of the bible. Born Again churches typically do not use the RCL and however are guided by particular ministers and their particular interpretations of what bible passages they chose. Having no heiarchy or at time cohesiveness of thought between one born again church and another.

This is not a comprehensive list of doctrinal differences, but it is the major defining points of differences.

Answer 2

catholics and born again christians do not use the same bibile. at the reformation martin luther used the canon of a council of jewish elders who at jamnia decided that the canon of the bible as decided by the catholic church was to christian and thus decided to delete seven books. these jewish leaders are among the same people who rejected christ. these books can be found in the catholic bible in the old testament, from the new testament jesus quotes from the books(not found in the other christian bibles) over 300 times. scripturecatholic.com gives a comprehensive and scriptural insight into related topics that may help you. for born again christians they are generally protestant churches that have broken away from the catholic church,the first and only church that can be traced back to jesus. as we both have different bibles we therefore have different teachings and different doctrines. born again christians are very selective about what scripture to use,that is why there are so many different born agian churches. whereas the catholic church uses all scripture in context. as jesus formed the catholic church and ensured it that not even will the gates of hell prevail against it as it will be protected by the holy spirit. so to this day the catholic church has prevailed for over 2000 years, most born again churches are less than 100 years old,do you see them prevailing to the end or do you see more splits within born again churches on an almost daily basis? you have to question what is guiding the majority of born again churches,because they are continuossly splintering of from one another. within the born again churches the pastor is the head figure,sort of pope and they need his permission and guidance for almost all problems and questions they have,yet they say jesus is all they need but turn to a man, which they then criticise the catholic church for doing.......doesn't make sense. all the catholic church teaches is scriptural, if these born again christians knew the bible they way they think they do they would see this. sorry to go off but i read alot of the born again christian posts and felt i needed to add some more. as they are giving you a very blind sighted answer.(some not all, i mean no offense to anyone in this answer sorry if i do).

Answer 3

"What separates us as believers in Christ is much less than what unites us." (Pope John XXIII)

Almost all important doctrine is completely agreed upon between Catholic Christians and other Christians.

Here is the joint declaration of justification by Catholics (1999), Lutherans (1999), and Methodists (2006):

By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping us and calling us to good works.

There are many minor doctrine issues and some major cultural traditional differences which, I believe, do not matter that much.

A Catholic worships and follows Christ in the tradition of Catholicism which, among other things, recognizes that Christ made Peter the leader of His new Church and Pope Benedict XVI is Peter's direct successor.

Catholics are spiritually born again, we usually just do not use those words.

With love in Christ.

Answer 4

Born Again are people that have had a life changing experience and believe that Jesus is the only Way to Heaven Period, The Catholic Church rejects the Idea of being born again and believes it is the pope and Good works that Might get a man into heaven , Plus they bypass Jesus Christ any way they can by praying to Mary, the saints and doing the rosary .Its the most deceiving Religion on the face of the earth and I believe it is easier to witness to a Muslim than to a catholic , I can tell a catholic as soon as they speak because they use Gods name in vain like its going out of style ,

Answer 5

Catholosism was an organised sect of Christianity that came out originally with Eastern Orthodox.
From Catholosism, the Protestant Reformation lead to different movements in belief.
They tended to belive that faith alone would grant salvation, while Catholics belived a generous life was needed as well.
They also took away many elements in Catholosism that they found to be unnessasary.
"Born Again" is a term for people who have found that path.

Answer 6

nicely,all Christians could be 'born lower back' in step with John 3:a million-5. however the term 'born lower back' is oftentimes used via Protestant Christians.There are quite a few adjustments between Protestants and Catholics: Catholics carry custom as equivalent to the Bible-Protestants do no longer. Catholics comprise greater desirable books (the Apocrypha) in theirBible,Protestants do no longer Catholics have faith that the dying of Christ created advantage that's shared with sinners by way of sacraments.Protestants have faith that that's in basic terms Christ's sacrifice,and it somewhat isn't any longer shared for the duration of the catholic sacraments. Catholics have faith that salvation is won at baptism; may be lost via mortal sin; regained via penance.Protestants have faith in salvation via faith on my own. Catholics have faith that the Catholic church is the single authentic church,Protestants have faith that there are authentic Christsians in each denomination. Catholics have faith that clergymen are mediators between God and guy,Protestants carry to 'priesthood of all believers'. Catholics have faith that for the period of Communion,the bread and wine will become the easily physique and blood of Jesus.Protestants have faith that Communion is in basic terms a rememberance of Jesus' dying. Catholics have faith in purgatory,Protestants do no longer. Catholics pray to Mary and the saints,Protestants do no longer.

Answer 7

What Catholics believe and what born again believe is not at all the same thing!
Born again is not a religion, it is a state of being changed by the Holy Spirit from death to life. Just by asking Jesus into your heart, by believing in Jesus death for sins and recieveing it for yourself.
Catholic is a whole other story. I know a lot of them and its so much rituals involved. Its all about their church like your either in their church or your not really saved. It is a religion, for the most part a dead religion with too much rituals and all of them not necessary for salvation.

Answer 8

Hi MICHYL. Actually being Born Again and being a catholic are two different things. Catholicism is a doctrine that is preached to a denomination. Being Born Again is when God gives you a new Soul, a new spirit, you are a new being. You are Born Again.

Christ tells us we must be Born Again to enter into the kingdom of God. Speaking to a Pharisees named Nicodemus, Jesus tells us in John 3:3-8:

"Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Answer 9

Catholicism is one of many subsets of Christianity, along with Lutheranism, Episcopalian, Methodist, Baptists and others. They all believe similarily but with sometimes miniscule differences they separate them.

Born Agains are people that believe they were on the wrong path and recommit their lives to what they believe in later in life. They have a more literal interpretation of the bible and look at it much more stringently than most other Christians.

Answer 10

Actually the Catholic Bible contains the "Apocropha," a diferent set of books that we believe are not Scripture.

Most Christians, opposed to Catholics, believe that Gods true church is all believers everywhere that ever lived. To Catholics, the true church is the Catholic Church!

Christians believe that Scripture is our soul authority while here on earth in submission to Christ of coarse. Catholics believe that church tradition is equal in authority to Scripture and that the pope is Gods representative of Jesus here on earth until he does return.

Catholics also believe Mary was sinless and retained her virginity. Christians believe she had children and that she was good but not sinless.

...just to name a few