Please include Bible verses in your answer. If I include the flood and make an accurate guess on that little incident, my score is:
God: 1,462,876,101 murders
Devil: 0 murders
2006-12-22 07:31:37 · 22 answers · asked by Thinx 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It's really a shame that some of Gods atrocities were written down without totaling the numbers of the dead. Since many scriptural chroniclers wrote of villages, cities, and entire cultures being killed of without including a body count, I think the numbers may actually be significantly lower.
For example, in Exodus:
12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
12:30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.
No body count.
You can put that into perspective by considering the current population of Egypt, which is about 78 million people. To be kind, lets cut that number in half to account for the worlds increase in population, and figure around 39 million Egyptians living at the time. Nowdays, we consider a standard family to have 2.5 children on average. Even if you consider the the higher mortality rate in ancient times and assume an average of 6 offspring per family, that gives you a death toll of 6.5 MILLION men, women and children.
That figure does not even include the cattle...
Incidentally, if you read Exodus 11:4-6 it is clear that these murders were premeditated by God, making Jehovah the greates serial killer of all time.
Now, back in the 80's, the world population reached the point where there were more people living than had ever been alive in the known history of the world. In 2005, the world population was 6,446,131,400. So using the same math as above, we can double that figure for a total of 12,892,262,800, making Gods current death toll 2,148,710,467 if we assme 1/6 of the deaths from natural disasters, accidents, war, etc. in the history of mankind be the result of Gods "divine" intervention.
I believe this would be a very kind estimate. However, mathematically it verifies the number you came up with, but only of you use modern population figures. Lets assume that the worlds population was 50% less than it is today during the time from mankinds appearance on Earth to the birth of Jesus Christ. If you run the numbers, it would seem that God kills 1 person out of every 6, making the Biblical total more like 537,177,.616
Unfortunately, your figures include an estimate for a theoretical world population, which IS supported by the Bible, but even Biblical scholars admit that the deluge was most likely a regional event. Only zealots and crackpots still believe the account indeed represents that the flood was a world-wide disaster.
Still, your reasoning is sound.
-SD-
2006-12-22 08:15:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
No, they should be rated on whether or not they are real. If a god is not real, he is irrelevant. If he IS real, you had better quit arguing with Him. By the way, contemporary scholars estimate that religious wars have killed as many as TWENTY MILLION people in man's history. Twenty million! That's *shameful! But then, the same reputable scholars estimate that atheistic (mostly communist) governments killed SEVENTY MILLION in the Twentieth Century alone. (That's the low end. Some go as high as 100 million.) Your professors didn't include that inconvenient truth in their anti-religion brainwashing, did they? *Oh, I should say, it's shameful if you believe in things like justice, mercy, the value of human life, etc. Of course, if there is no absolute God to give an absolute moral code, then such ideas can never be anything but some persons opinion, relative to the situation and different for every person. For an atheist to be outraged any ANY human conduct is nothing but nonsense, so you have nothing to complain about.
2016-03-29 03:58:06 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.
The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.
Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.
Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.
Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.
Love and blessings
don
2006-12-23 02:38:29 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Why do people who don't believe in God, or more specifically, our God, spend so much time trying to convince themselves that they are right? I would suggest that it is because your conscience is killing you. The answer to your question is a question. If he really is the one and only God almighty, the creator of all, how many did he have the right to kill? If he is who the Bible says he is then he can do what he wants for what ever reasons he has. Check out Romans chapter 9. Read it carefully, and in context.
2006-12-22 07:48:28 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
the holy book wasn't made up to keep score of murders. god gave us life. he can take it away. but why do you see death as being something bad? god doesn't kill in order to be cruel. that's the human perception. death is just a transcendence to another plane of existence in christian belief.
but tu get back to your point: i don't think that you quetion can be answered due to lack of material. (because the devil lies and decieves, and may use those methods to kill and/or hide his crimes. and i don't see anyone trying to find out if the murder was commited by satan, or by someone else). the bible's role isn't to keep score of deaths and the persons who commited them, so it isn't the right one you should look into. i don't think there are any books that say who killed who, so... sorry. answer unavailable.
2006-12-22 07:44:19 · answer #5 · answered by Andrei C 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I think you left something out...
The living God offered mercy before EVERY judgment. Hmmm...God prefers mercy over judgment, people just choose not to accept it.
John 10:10 The enemy comes to kill, to steal and to destroy, but I have come to give you life and give it more abundantly.
2006-12-22 07:36:07 · answer #6 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Until you allow that small mind of yours to open up just a little you will never be able to understand how a loving God could do such things. Why is it that I can almost see you smiling as you typed that question?
2006-12-22 07:37:57 · answer #7 · answered by gtahvfaith 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
With how bad and intolerant the christian God is...There is no need for a devil, their god has become his own devil.
Look around you christianity, look what you'e done. You've lost your true meaning of christianity, your obsessed now with recruiting for your "faith" more than the damn military
2006-12-22 07:37:56 · answer #8 · answered by DrewM 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The devil killed all of mankind throughout all time.
Genesis 3:3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "
4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
That lie of the devil's condemned the rest of us to death. Had that not happened, death would not be among us. The only condition for death was the eating of that fruit. The devil talked her into it, therefore is responsible for the deaths of an entire species.
2006-12-22 07:35:53 · answer #9 · answered by BaseballGrrl 6 · 1⤊ 5⤋
According to the Holy Bible, no one has perished yet, not even Satan.
Is that the extent of your thinking?
Thinking only carnally?
Continue on this path of thinking, and yes, YOU will perish.
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2006-12-22 07:45:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋