Why believe in accoutability or freewill? It only gives us a false reason to hate each other...?

Question

Freewill is a paradox because it states we are accountable for what choice we make.

We are not. I can only learn from what is available to me and I cannot choose what is available to me. We have the ability to choose but only within a confined context. The fact that we do not choose the level of confinement means our ability to choose is left at the whim of the confinement, something we did not have control over to begin with thus accountability is a logical fallacy.

Even if God created us on the spot 6,000 years and people established law and order, the next generation would still lack the freewill to decide whether or not they learned from the system because they did not choose the confined context. A man cannot choose what he desires. Desire comes from the confined context whether it is social interaction or genes.

Once you realize that everything follows it's natural course, that nothing is inherently evil just inevitable then you have no more reason to hate anyone.

Now of course, I am not promoting lawlessness. Human compassion has survived natural selection, and we should embrace it. But why hate a murderer for not choosing the life that was forced on him?

You discrediting the illusion of freewill based on your atheism means you are not actually questioning my statement but my religion. (Which is nonexistent but thanks for your assumption.)

Something made you buy pull the trigger that was beyond your control. Maybe it was mistreatment, anger from growing up...all factors decided by your surroundings - not you.

I really don't understand why me saying that freewill does not exist links that to God somehow. Humans are biological machines. We have about as much freewill as an insect.

Desire comes from what you learn from the world. If I personally allow them to arise why is it that an infant needs consistent social interaction to think on its own? That is a confined context. What you are saying is that freewill magically sprouts in our minds once we've matured, but how am I accountable for never choosing how much I mature?

[readytogo] I never said people don't make choices. I said they are not accountable. Please read.

[readytogo] I never said people don't make choices. I said they are not accountable. Please read.

Answer 1

Everything we do in life is a choice. There are consequences to our actions. Don't you see ,if we would only just treat each other the way we would want to be treated with love and respect how wonderful this world would be.

Answer 2

Surely you haven't studied the laws of cause and effect, which are the basic equivalent to the ideas of "karma" and "sin" and the "rule of 3" (Wicca).

As a Buddhist we don't believe in a "creator god" but cause and effect IS a reality, therefore so is free will.

Desire comes from whatever causes and conditions in your mind that you've cultivated and manifests according to your "deluded" thoughts. You can decide to allow them to arise or you can decide to work on the causes and conditions, subsequently eliminating the charge behind those thoughts before they become "actions".

It's true that nothing is "inherently evil" but then NOTHING exists inherently either. You might find some fun reading Buddhist logic.

Answer 3

Freewill always has been and always will be. If there was anything to stop out freewill, it will be nuclear war. Other than that, I fully disagree with you.

I've known about this free will thing ever since I was... what, BORN! And, i was baptized against my will when I was a baby, not to mention... well, that's not to be mentioned...

I believe in human nature and indulgence, not praying and asking an invisible entity for stuff.

Answer 4

So, no more Prisons, Psychiatrists, Police, Laws, etc... because no one could be held accountable for their actions?

Killing little kids and eating them was inevitable for Dahmer? Sorry, even if I believed that, if Dahmer had eaten my kid, I would have hated him anyway.

And people can't learn Not to speed because they didn't choose the "confined context", in this case the Society they live in.

I'm sorry, cannablism is not within our confined context in our Society... Dahmer obviously desired to do this and that desire had to come from somewhere.

Answer 5

I don't understand. You can always choose to buy a gun or not and to pull the trigger or not.