Did Jesus steal his ideas from Osiris of Egypt ?

Question

Osiris was also the god of the vine and a great travelling teacher who civilized the world. He was the ruler and judge of the dead. In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and “the 72.” Like that of Jesus, Osiris’s resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.

Osiris’s “son” or renewed incarnation, Horus, shares the following in common with Jesus:

--Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
--His earthly father was named “Seb” (“Joseph”).
--He was of royal descent.
--At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized having disappeared for 18 years.
--Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by “Anup the Baptizer” (“John the Baptist”), who was decapitated.
--He had 12 desciples, two of who were his “witnesses” and were named “Anup” and “Aan” (the two “Johns”).
--He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (“El-Osiris”), from the dead.
--Horus walked on water.
--His personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son” of “Ptah,” the “Father.” He was thus called “Holy Child.”
--He delivered a “Sermon on the Mount” and his followers recounted the “Sayings of Iusa.”
--Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
--He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
--He was also the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” “the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc.
--He was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish (“Ichthys”), Lamb and Lion.
--He came to fulfill the Law.
--Horus was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.”
--Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.”

Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago [1500 years before Jesus’ alleged advent] on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus; with Kneph the “Holy Ghost,” impregnating the virgin; and with the infant being attended bh three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis—the original “Madonna and Child.” As Massey says:

It was the Gnostic art that reproduced the Hathor-Meri and Horus of Egypt as the Virgin
and child-Christ of Rome . . . You poor idiotai, said the Gnostics [to the early Christians],
you have mistaken the mysteries of old for modern history, and accepted literally all that
was only meant mystically.

Source Inquisitive Atheist

Answer 1

no- he did not... the dudes that invented jesus did - they pretty much took all the myths (osiris, buddah, krishna, etc. there are several dozen with the same idea behind it - essentially all driven by Astrology) mixed it up, renamed some stuff and wrote 'the inspired word of god', which we all know became an all time best seller, but luckily is on its way out the door....

Answer 2

First off, that characterization of the Horus myth is inaccurate and grossly oversimplified. Secondly, Jesus is much more likely to have been lifted from a source story closer to Dionysus. Thirdly, the redemption myth is a powerful archetype from our collective consciousness. It should be no surprise that similar mythic threads weave through cultures separated by time and space. Try reading Joseph Cambell's Hero With A 1000 Faces together with some of the works of Carl Jung and Frazer's Golden Bough. Do some of your own compare and contrast of the sacred literatures of the world , rather than just accepting "facts" as offered by one biased side OR the other.

Answer 3

In short, yes, the creation of the Jesus myth was a result of Paul's preaching. Never having met the actualy Jesus, Paul went out to preach, and when he ran into people practicing old religions he worked to compared Jesus with the gods those people worshipped already so that they would convert without any crisis of consciousness. Also never forget that the Bible and the principles of Christianity were voted on and the book was edited back by the Council of Nicea. Not matter what people try to tell you about these men being "divinely guided," they were seeking for the most efficient method of social control.

Answer 4

Yinzers! Funny!

Seriously, there are many examples of male Gods who have died and been reborn. The concept is not unique to Christianity. I couldn't say if it was taken from Osiris. I lean more towards taken from Mithras since the birth and death/resurrections time of year for the two are almost identical.

In the end, you either believe or not believe. Whether or not it all matters is still up in the air and unknowable until after we pass on.

Answer 5

Your source of information is faulty. Osiris was lord of the underworld and the god of fertility and growing crops. Most of the information you give is simply not true, the rest is myth. No, Jesus did not "steal" His ideas from anyone. He fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament.

Answer 6

Er, no.

Jesus was teaching a new type of Judaism. He was a Jew, and the idea of proclaiming himself "God" would have been abhorrent to him. It was Paul who applied the veneeer of a salvation cult to what Jesus had been teaching, and incorporated the "dying and resurrected god/king" thing.

Paul's childhood exposure to the Mithras symbolism and religion influenced him profoundly; it was the filter through which he saw Jesus' life and teachings and death..

Answer 7

Where did you read about this?

Holy Crap talk about reaching Angry American, if that verse has any meaning, it sure as hell isn't talking about Jesus. And the Egyptian culture is about 2000yrs older than Christianity, and hieroglyphs predate the bible significantly. Why is it no one ever considers that the similarity's that run through all religions could be because there really is just one truth? Why is it people feel attacked when anyone suggests that their religion is Metaphorical truth rather than fact?

Answer 8

The Bible, including most of it's messianic prophecies of the coming Christ predate the mythological creature, Osiris by at least several thousand years.

In Genesis which some scholars believe to be dated to the 8th century BC states in the first messianic prophecy:

"And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring [a] and hers;
he will crush [b] your head,
and you will strike his heel." (Genesis 3:15)

Here is the first mention of the coming Christ. A tad bit before any mention of Osiris was ever found.

Besides, the story of Jesus Christ is real and original. Osiris is merely a figment of one's own creative imagination.

Nice try though. That's a good one. Just as I thought I've heard them all.

Obviously Jessy doesn't know the scriptures or his history. The stories conatined in the Book of Genesis predates Egyptian culture. This particular verse quoted above is the first messianic prophecy about the coming Christ who will put "enmity" between man and the devil. This passage was a threat to Satan who had just deceived Adam and Eve.

Answer 9

Jesus did not . He is a character of middle eastern tales and legends. It is common for writers of tales and legends to get inspiration from other tales and legends. The idea of the "virgin birth" is one of them. Since it's a popular one, writers used it to try to make their stories popular. They were somewhat successfully.

Answer 10

wow information overload there
where did u get this from? coincidences are too many to be ignored if the source is to be trusted.
yeah i hv heard about christianity being invented by incorporating ideas from pagan religion and stuff. but im pretty confused really.