Here’s a Friday morning test;
1. Why did Tony Blair go to Washington last week, with no official agenda?
2. Why did he head to Israel after?
3. Why is President Bush is increasing troops in Iraq from 140,000 to 170,000, despite no defined operation?
4. Why is a second US carrier group is on its way to the coast of Iran?
5. Why has Tony Blair suddenly been issuing threats to Iran such as “destabilise democracy in Iraq, we will confront you"?
Answers: 1 + 2. Plan Iran invasion 3. Use Iraq to build up Iran force. 4. Prepare for strikes. 5. Fool the gullible into thinking war is needed
This is official. Documents are drawn-up for a New Year strike
Israel will initiate the conflict with the UK & US in support. This allows Bush & Blair to bypass democracy & claim its Israel’s unilateral action & we’re forced to defend them.
The objective is regime change and ending Iran’s nuclear program.
How will Iran respond? Will al-Sadr attack us? Will Hezbollah attack inside the US? WW3?
2006-12-21
20:44:53
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Foo - look half way down this article:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0612/S00319.htm
Search for Setmour Hersh's reports. Check Scott Ritter on Democracy Now.
Do some research before you say this isn't true. Don't wait for Fox News to tell you.
2006-12-21
21:11:11 ·
update #1
Look into this. Are you aware 30,000 troops and two carrier groups are on the way?
Do American's know Iran has a large, well armed military?
Don't just say "I don't believe it". Look into it.
2006-12-21
21:18:48 ·
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Hass_mat - you are correct. Iran has spent billions on military h/w upgrades in recent years and are a serious power.
I am stunned that American's can see 30,000 more troops and two fully manned carrier groups go off to a conflict zone and they don't ask why, or think it's a joke. And after Iraq, how can they assume a much larger nation that's 10 time the power will be easy?
I've always felt freedom & democracy come with a duty to understand national & international affairs.
2006-12-21
22:06:09 ·
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Thanks o'yam - Perhaps the details I've looked into will change or not happen.
But the recent Blair & Bush speeches, escalation in UN sanctions, 30,000 troops, Navy groups going to Iran etc. aren't normal.
2006-12-21
22:14:06 ·
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this question does not come as a surprise to me I told you some time ago that the hooded Crows were massing.You would have to be blind not to see the possibility of Armageddon , or world war three . As an ex army man , I have been expecting something of this sort sooner rather than later . p.w.l.
2006-12-21 21:04:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Unfortunatly I think it is possible that the US could attack Iran using their shiny new Big Blu 30,000 lb bunker buster bomb. Iran have been classed as a rogue state and are ignoring international agenda's to empower themselves and their people. Bush won't like this and American foreign policy will not accept it. Iraq will continue to be a problem, US + UK are fighting a well organised underground operation, it will not matter how many troops are there! Theoretically, if Iran are not stopped and they are allowed to develop nuclear technology AND the delivery system then the region becomes more unstable as Israel and Iran create a stand off (positive) or Iran just launch against Israel (negative). If the US were to invade Iran then Russia most probably won't take it lying down as the oil stakes raise whilst China may see it as a perfect opportunity to sort out the little problem of Taiwan whilst America are bogged down in the middle east. We're already this far down the road, what happens when there really is an oil crisis?
2006-12-21 21:48:47
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answered by urbanrt 3
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If what you say was true which I do not believe, the Iranians will respond by dieing. Not much else they can do. Hezbollah would run out of funding and that would give the Democratic government in Lebanon a chance to run it's own country. Hamas would be out of money and weapons and FATAH could possibly come to terms with Israel, or a t least the fighting in Palestine would slow. Then the Shiite Militias in Iraq would have no more outside support and would soon be out of weapons also. That would allow Al-Sisitani to gather the support of the militant Shiites as he already has the support of most Shiite in Iraq. That would leave the biggest problem left the Taliban and Al-Qaida. Now I wonder where they get their weapons? Syria? They might just get scared straight without Iran to protect them. Not a bad idea, have you tried telling Bush about this? He has been looking for a good plan to win the war. You may have just found it!
2006-12-21 21:00:32
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answered by mark g 6
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Not a chance in hell. Russia and China lean towards Iraq in the UN. They don't want Iran to be attacked. Iran is also the biggest power in the Middle East next to Israel. They are no walkover like Iraq who had outdated technology, a less fanatical population, a smaller army, and less of a land mass. Iran also has support in the Middle East which Iraq didn't have. There are so many terrorists, just waiting for a second front to be opened in the Middle East. Opening a second front from the point of view of the US and Britain would be a military disaster. They can't cope in Iraq at the minute with the 140,000 troops there already. Do you think that the US could invade Iran with only 30,000 troops? Don't make me laugh.
There is, however, cause for invasion. The cause is exactly the same one that led to the invasion of Iraq - Iran has made the first steps towards trading its oil in Euros. This means that oil from Iran is more expensive than before. The US now need to pay 1.3 times more than Europeans countries do for Iranian oil. I would love to see an invasion of Iran just simply to put the final nail in the coffin of Bush and have him enter the history books as the most disastrous President ever in the history of the US: I don't, however, want to see many more thousands of young US/British men and women (and it will be tens of thousands this time round) lose their lives in another oil war.
Let it be and speak to Iran.
Quarterback has it wrong that it would be an easier war. Iran may fight like a regular army in the beginning but if things go wrong then the same thing will happen as is happening in iraq. iraq has shown smaller nations exactly how to fight a major power. Stand down your army and arm small but effective militant and guerilla groups. You always fight to your strengths and not to your enemies strengths. The Iranian military are better equipped than the Iraqis were but even so it will probably end up as anoth Iraq.
The US is not cut out to fight long term wars anywhere in the world. Rumsfeld modified the army in order to reduce personnel and rely more on technology. This means that the US army is best designed for short term conflicts and not long drawn out wars.
2006-12-22 19:32:27
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answered by Anonymous
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I do admit that i am concern over the focus that bush and Blair have on Iran especially after 2003
I can also see how your scenario has been built up
However an extra 30000 troops and 2 carriers is not enough to take on a military as capable as Iran,but if the build up continues then the reality changes with it
2006-12-21 22:44:14
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answered by The Fat Controller 5
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The deal is that no one has ever successfully invaded Iran so I think it will be something more like telling the homicidal maniac they call president, he has two days to cease operations in the nuclear facilities. If he doesn't cease operations, the facilities will be removed via surgical air strikes.
I also think that it's time that al-sadr's militia was disarmed and 30,000 Amjerican Troops seem to be about enough to get that job done too.
Hezbollah will be left up to Israel. Do you really believe that Ohlmert has a "slip of the tongue" last week, or was that a warning?
2006-12-21 20:56:58
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answered by ? 5
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A war with Iran would be a much easier undertaking than Iraq. A lot of people on this website appear to have the nature of this conflict mixed up. If we fought Iran, they would actually put on uniforms, and fight on a battlefield. They would have brigades and platoons. It would be organised warfare. Which coincidentally, is exactly what the USAF is geared to fight against. The US military is designed to fight large scale wars. It is set up to fight 2 MAJOR WARS simultaneously ( WW2 style). Naval battles, air to air combat, and tank battles would be the nature of that war. And well, Iran quite simply could not compete on that level. Bombs would be raining down upon them relentlessly. THEY COULD NOT STOP IT. America and Britain have the most advanced military technology on the planet. Nothing comes close.
I find it funny that you think some third world country could take us on...in "open war". And if we fight Iran...that's exactly what it will be. It wont be like Iraq where we are trying to get the Iraqi's to stop killing each other. In a war with Iran...we would encourage it!
I'm talking about a "take no prisoners" type of war..
Not a peacekeeping operation in Iraq.
2006-12-22 08:42:48
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answered by quarterback 2
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I dont think it will happen, however to answer your question Iran is quite technologicaly developed than most countries in the region, America cant even fight a militia group properly, i dont know how they will fight a trained army, and the other thing is that most iranians wanted freedom, and democrecy, and they probably wouldent have fought american or british troops, but now that they have seen whats happend to their neighbour IRAQ i think they will fight till the end.
2006-12-21 20:54:59
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answered by yamahaqi 3
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That doesnt seem to supprise me given our current government. Clearly they dont agree with the stance of Iran, or there people so hey let's impose western democracy on these people? I mean come on they cant even get there own back yard in order, look at the mess the UK is in due to these so call leaders?? and they are out there dictaing the world? wheres the democratic prosses over there or is it just a bunch of bully boys, pushing and manipulating for what they think is best? How much of these so called wars are our governments actually instigating and then sending out the propogander to support war? Get them out I say, throw them out of parliment, throw them out of Downing street, and lets get some one in who can actually do the job of running the country?
2006-12-21 21:07:32
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answered by djp6314 4
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For the present the US & UK alliance have no plans to invade Iran. Were the United States planning an invasion of Iran, they would telegraph their intentions well in advance. No one ever got attacked by the Americans without first be informed and given the reason.
2006-12-22 17:07:01
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answered by Anonymous
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