for instance: Jacob deceives (lying, commandment 9) his father Isaac (honor thy father and mother, commandment 5) in order to steal (commandment 8) the birthright from his brother Esau. he then flees into the wilderness where god tells him he is good and holy.
there is another reference in the book of mormon 1st Nephi 4:5-27 where Nephi is instructed "by god" to kill Laban, the king while he is passed out drunk, so that he may steal the plates of brass on which the five books of Moses are engraved.
now, if god is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and god set forth commandments saying "thou shalt not do this" with a period at the end, how come so many "prophets" are instructed to break his commandments, proving that god is in fact NOT the same, and that he DOES change his mind.
in other words, if god is omnipotent, could he have not set forth another avenue with which Jacob could have obtained his fathers blessing, or that Nephi could have obtained the brass plates?
2006-12-21 11:07:41 · 8 answers · asked by Mastronaut 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
gratvol, good answer... but if "god is the same yesterday, today, and forever" then would god not want his flock to follow his commandments, even though he has not set them forth yet?
2006-12-21 11:34:07 · update #1
The Ten Commandments were handed down to Moses who lived much later than Jacob and Isaac.
However, what Jacob did in deceiving his father and thereby cheating Esau out of Isaac's deathbed blessing is condemned by Hosea (Hosea 12:4), Jeremiah (Jeremiah 9:3), and the narrator of the this story, who makes the reader sympathize with Esau as the innocent victim of a cruel plot.
Jacob and his mother, the instigator of the plot, paid for the deception by a lifelong separation from each other.
The story was told because it was part of the mystery of God's ways in salvation history--his use of weak, sinful men to achieve his own ultimate purpose.
With love in Christ.
2006-12-22 17:38:49 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The book of mormon reads, "It is better that one man die than a nation dwindle and parish in disbelief". That refers to the killing of Laban to get the law of Moses (brass plates). Joseph smith made a little mistake when he wrote this. He goes on to write the book of mormon never mentioning the observance of any law of Moses being followed by Nephi or anyone else. Maybe a loving and just God doesn't tell people to kill others. It seems they never needed the brass plates after all. They all eventually did dwindle and not believe anyway.
Good question.
2006-12-22 13:02:41 · answer #2 · answered by todd e 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
An atheist once told me that the biggest evidence that God dosn't exist is the Bible. Personally I believe the Bible dose have some truth in it. I suggest you read the Quran because to me it is perfect.
2006-12-21 19:13:37 · answer #3 · answered by N 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I would agree with you if it was not for two things
one nowhere is Jacobs actions condoned.
second the commandments were given after Jacob
nice try though.
2006-12-21 19:31:37 · answer #4 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No kidding. And theres that bit in I Thesselonians "And therefore god sent them strong delusion, that they would believe a lie."
God gets bored and sometimes he needs to play with His lil creatures.
2006-12-21 19:13:59 · answer #5 · answered by Laptop Jesus 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You got it... god is imaginary. The bible is pure fiction, with some highly inventive stories but nothing more.
2006-12-21 19:10:53 · answer #6 · answered by atheist jesus 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Free will, God gave mankind free will-the choice to obey or not to obey is completely up to us.
2006-12-21 19:18:08 · answer #7 · answered by rachmarie2000 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Im with John H!!!!
2006-12-21 19:13:22 · answer #8 · answered by jazzibelle22 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋