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What are the chuchs and governments stand on how '' under god'' is in the pledge of alligiance

2006-12-20 03:45:16 · 14 answers · asked by charlie m 2 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

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This country was founded upon the principles of religion. Our forefathers came to this land as a result of tyranny and oppressive conditions against peoples religion and Christian faith. Once here, they banded together and agreed upon a constitution that would forever protect them against the possibilities of a tyrannical government that would try to hinder their worship of the One True God, that being God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. They agreed upon and wrote out a constitution or an established law. They then refined their desires with amendments, with the very first one, again, expounding upon freedom of religion.

The first amendment to the Constitution reads as follows: "Congress shall make no law with regard to an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Congress shall make no law with regard to an establishment of religion; no law with regard to prohibiting the free exercise thereof; no law with regard to depriving, diminishing, curtailing or condensing the freedom of speech or press of an established religion; no law with regard to prohibiting the right of the people to peaceably assemble; and no law with regard to prohibiting these people from petitioning the government for a redress of grievances. It is plain to see that our forefathers wanted no government involved, in any way, with the practice of their faith. They were free to worship because they learned the destructive power of tyranny and broke away to another land to guarantee that they could fulfill their purpose and relationship with the One True God.

This law and amendment established the separation between their church and the government or state. But, we must remember that the people who wrote the constitution with its amendments were believers in the One True God. Therefore, if they were elected and chosen for positions in the government, there was no separation of church and state, for they the church, were the state. Their law (constitution) established that this government could not, ever, create and force tyranny upon the free desire of Christians to practice their faith and belief in God. At that time, they were in pretty good control, for the state and the church were one, but, they thought far enough ahead to the time when those in elected positions would not believe in God and adhere to His statutes. And the time has long sense come to pass that our government now has more non-believers than believers. And, many who claim to be believers do not live the life that a true believer in God must live. As a result, laws have been passed that directly effect Christian principles and Gods statutes, which is contrary to the first amendment. These new laws have superceded the written law of our founding fathers, the Constitution.

This problem was not caused strictly by the government, but also by the church. You see, the church, its members have allowed the way of the world into the church body. How could this be, you ask? Well, Gods statutes and commandments have been forgotten. Yes, they are still being taught in the church, but, they are not being adhered unto. Gods word says that we are to "Trust in the Lord with all our heart, lean not unto our own understanding, in all of our ways acknowledge Him and he will make our path straight". Proverb 3:5-6

America was founded upon the principles of God. These principles caused men to want to live in a free environment. This country grew, based not only on the principles of God, but, through these principles unto freedom and liberty. As the years went on and time passed, and new people would come to this free land, they came to realize that they had many free rights that they could not experience anywhere else. As people continued to arrive in the Americas, and to raise families and the population continued to grow, the fact that all persons had rights seemed to predominate. This was wonderful. Due to peoples desires to adhere to the principles of God, a country arose granting its people freedom and liberty, with rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now remember, this all came about due to the desires of the people to worship their One True God without tyranny and oppressive conditions brought upon them by and through government and state interference. Freedom, liberty and the right to worship God. The right to live by the principle of God without interference of the government. But, again, over time, the right to freedom and liberty to worship God took on a new character. This free country provided liberty and rights to people found nowhere else. This wonderful, free country, not only allowed people the right to worship their One True God, it allowed its people many rights that could not be found anywhere else in the world. As the population increased and people had different ideas, they were free to express them, after all, this was a free country and its people have this right to expression which we still do today. But, this land of the free, to worship and live by the principles of the One True God has turned into a free land that gives its people rights that have overtaken the principles of God. What am I saying? The principles of God have taken a back seat to the rights of the people. These rights and the belief in the peoples rights has crept into the churches. The rights of the people have become worldly, yes, worldly. Our forefathers were Christians. They believed in the principles of Gods Word. Gods word says to live by His word. Tyranny and oppressive governments forced them to find a place in this world that they could worship their One True God. Gods word says to separate thyself from this world. Be ye separate says the Lord. Separate from the likes of the world. Be Ye Holy, for I Am Holy. Our forefathers founded these lands for the RIGHT to be separated from this world, that they may become more like Him. That is the only RIGHT that these United States were founded upon. The RIGHT to ACCEPT GOD or to REJECT GOD. That is the only TRUE RIGHT that we have in these states that were founded upon the principles of God.

Now, because the many rights of the people have become more predominant, all that is associated with freedom of rights have become a way of life. This way of life, although free, has become worldly and no longer separated unto God. This way of peoples rights has been taught in our schools and perpetuated in our courts to such a degree that the principles of our One True God can not be expressed to anyone who does not want to hear them. Now, the people have a RIGHT, a legal one, to REJECT the principles of God. This way of peoples rights has progressed to such a degree that church people have the right to interpret Gods words differently. Because they can interpret Gods word differently, they can look at His principles differently. If they look at His principles differently they have a right to live differently. These variations in Gods principles has caused Gods word to be watered down. This watering down of Gods word has caused the way of the world to enter into the church. Many, many denominational leaders, pastors and ministers, do not want to tackle any of this information. To do so would cause them to expound upon the principles and statutes of God. To expound upon the everlasting principles would call for a crack down upon the way people live, the ways that are contrary to Gods principles. This might cause many to leave their church. This may cause them to admit to the ways that they are living which are contrary to Gods commanded ways. These statements are not a put down but a call to rise up to what God wants us all to be.

2006-12-20 04:03:34 · answer #1 · answered by jay r 2 · 1 4

I do not feel so, it used to be most effective further to the Pledge round 50 years in the past for the duration of the Cold War to take a look at to place America at the prime floor in opposition to the 'Godless Commies' But I feel that's a deficient excuse, the seperation of church and states is an most important factor of the founding father's needs that all people can train their private believes with out prejudice. Not all people believes in God and they have got that proper and should not be required to take action if they do not desire to. In addition "In God We Trust" on American cash used to be firstly "In Gold We Trust", converted for identical explanations.

2016-09-03 14:13:53 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I could only tell you my opinion on the matter. I happen to be an atheist, so I don't appreciate that line of the pledge, but I love this country enough to say the pledge at school on a daily basis. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to be a God fearing republican to love your country and I don't think it's fair to bring religion and government together under any circumstances, especially seeing as though it is unconstitutional. The only loophole I can think of that would allow this line to be in the pledge is that it is vague enough to refer to any religion's deity and therefore seem to be "unbiased". However, I digress. I believe in no diety. What about the atheist patriots?!

2006-12-20 03:59:47 · answer #3 · answered by Syreus 2 · 2 1

Many have answered by pointing out that the "under God" portion was added in the 1950's. It's also worth noting that the original pledge was written by a Baptist minister, without reference to God. In fact his family, when congress was debating the addition of that language, requested that it not be changed.

2006-12-20 04:17:13 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

The pledge was changed in 1957 to insert the words 'under God' by act of Congress. It has been challenged as being in violation of the first amendments separation of church and state. The Supreme Court has ruled it is not a violation because those words do not constitute the establishment of any religion.

The original founders of the country wrote the first amendment to establish freedom of religion, not freedom from religion as has been contended in recent years. What the first amendment says is -The government will NOT establish any one religion as THE religion of the USA.

Persons living in the USA can worship any religion they wish without persecution.

2006-12-20 04:06:08 · answer #5 · answered by namsaev 6 · 2 2

During the 50,s there was Sen. J. McCarthy and the HUAC.
Short answer, adding "under God" to the pledge in 1957, meant some people could feel superior to the U.S.S.R. and on and on we went.

2006-12-20 04:51:11 · answer #6 · answered by S. B. 6 · 1 1

traditionally our country has been one of believers in a God, and yes a Judeo-Christian God. The secularist see religion as a threat to there views and do not respect the rights of others to believe and practice the faith of their chosing instead the secular left's intend is to create a society devoid of belief and morality, this is straight from the Marx/Engles/Lenin playbook.

Global socialists like Soros, Pelosi are truly dangerous signs of things to come. I believe in order to have an American culture we need to adhere to things that are traditions. "in God we trust", "under God", "Merry Christmas" (not Happy Holidays) are reflections of tradition that bind a society together. The thing the Marxists discuss is eliminate those things tradition so people will put "State" first..

Something to think about for those that argue I don't want someone telling me what to believe.. Guess what? If you don't have values, Government will give you a set..

2006-12-20 04:35:28 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

That phrase shouldn't be there, and there should not be a "pledge of allegiance" at all. That "pledge" was a marketing invention by a company that wanted to sell American flags. There's no requirement to have the pledge and it serves no meaningful legal purpose.

2006-12-20 03:56:53 · answer #8 · answered by mattzcoz 5 · 2 1

"under god" in the pledge and "in god we trust" were added by an act of congress in 1957 in violation of the endorsement of religion clause of the first amendment of the constitution.

Now we have an official governmental office of faith based initiatives. The constitutionality of this governmental office is being decided by the supreme court in 2007.

The road to theocracy is paved with "insignificant" stuff like this.
Eventually we will be stoning adulteresses and burning witches again.

2006-12-20 03:49:55 · answer #9 · answered by sprcpt 6 · 3 1

It doesn't really have a stand. The under god part was added by religious Conservatives in 1954 as part of their anti-communist crusade as communism demands that atheism be the govt religion. ever since the religious Conservatives use it as a litmus test of a persons patriotism.

2006-12-20 05:32:30 · answer #10 · answered by brian L 6 · 1 1

It does not matter what thier stand is. Congress put those words in the pledge when there were men in Congress. Now that we have so many girly men out there, in Congress and around the USA, they are wanting to removed the pledge. My stand is IT STAYS, because we are on nation Under God. We sure are not over God. God Bless the USA, and George Bush.

2006-12-20 03:55:01 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

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