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The first surviving reference to the Christmas celberation comes in 200 A.D., but the December 25th date was not fixed until 354 A.D., by Bishop Liberus of Rome. The date remains the standard in the Western tradition, although Christmas, or "The Feast of Nativity," is celebrated on January 6th by Armenian Orthodox Church and on the 7th by the Ethiopian, Russian, and Ukrainian Orthodox.

The Bible, of course, tells us neither the date nor time of year when Christ was born. But, as Alexander Hislop points out, it was unlikely to have been winter, for the shepherds were tending their flocks by night. "The cold of the night," writes Hislop, from December to February, is very piercing, and it was not the custom for the shepherds of Judea to watch their flocks in the open fields later than about the end of October."
So why did the Western Church chose December 25th? The decision may have been aimed at displacing pagan worship. Throughout history, many pagan celebrations have falle

2006-12-19 22:45:31 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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it took you that long to come to the conclusion???? yes yule which christmas is stemed from is a pagan holiday. yes alot of christians preform our rituals on christmas and easter for tha matter. and yes christianity might be a false hood no one will know till they die

2006-12-19 22:56:02 · answer #1 · answered by lucifer 3 · 0 0

What you are forgetting is that thousands of pagans had converted to Christianity around 354 AD. Some of them were still celebrating the pagan feast day on Dec. 25. So that is one reason the celebration day (not the actual birth day) of Christ's birth was selected: to get the new ex-pagan Christians to stop celebrating something that was deeply entrenched in their culture. There is nothing evil or sinister about this.

Moreover, December 25 is especially fitting in that it comes four days after the winter solstice. As the days grow longer with more light, Christians rejoice in the hope of the world in the birth of him who called himself the Light of the World. G. H. Montgomery wrote, "Church leaders saw in the birth of Jesus a triumph of light over darkness, spring over winter and of life over death. What more appropriate time could have been selected to commemorate the birth of the Man whose life, teachings and vicarious death were to change the trends of history, cause light to shine out of darkness and offer light to those who dwell in the valley of death! It will be good to keep these things in mind as you observe Christmas."

God isn't against Christmas. God is in favor of Christmas--of the proper observance of the holiday, that is. God planned and executed the first Christmas. No matter how flagrantly men may abuse this holiday, they cannot rob devout believers of its wonder and glory as expressed by the angel of old, "Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord" (Luke 2:10, 11).

Lastly, Alexander Hislop is not a "noted historian of antiquity". He is exposed as a liar, a crackpot, and a bigot, by apologists and accredited historians from a variety of denominations.

2006-12-19 23:10:45 · answer #2 · answered by Br. Dymphna S.F.O 4 · 0 0

im sorry but you have it backwards. The season was a pagan holiday. but Mass of christ was a catholic invention and christmas is only in its current reincarnation as a family freindly holiday that remembers the birth of christ with the giving of gifts.
the catholic church decided to declare dec 25 as christmas in the early part of history, i think it was either 2nd or 3rd century but no later than the sixth century. AD
the bible does hint at the time and season when jesus was born. Generally it is agread that spring time is when the shepherds were in the fields with their flocks. So when the angel came and heraled the birth of christ, it had to be then.

2006-12-19 22:53:18 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes christmas is indeed pagan just as pagan as the priests who ordained the day to celebrate the birth of Christ. All these delusions emanated from Nicea Rome where they formed the first denomination, Roman Catholic, encompassing various religions and politics. These were the people Paul warned against
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

2006-12-19 23:07:43 · answer #4 · answered by Gre2000 3 · 0 0

I think you hit the nail on the head.........My opinion....it was to offer an alternative to pagan worship.
You are right that we have no idea what day Christ was born. That isn't important.
I would question one thing you have researched, not that I'm doubting, but I do question.......Shepards don't tend their flocks at night in winter?.....What do they do with them?......the flocks were 100's and 100's of animals.......no fencing, no barns.....I'm thinking they tended them year round.

Some of your posters state that Christmas......or Christianity is pagan in nature....That is just wishful thinking on their part so the importance of what happened can be minimized. Christ's birth is probably THE Holiest occurance that we as Christians observe

You have a Merry Christmas

2006-12-19 23:04:34 · answer #5 · answered by kenny p 7 · 0 0

Good grief...that old question again? Listen, Dec 25th was indeed a pagen celebration day. The early church gathered together on that day to celebrate their beliefs...makes sense doesn't it? Probably, everyone in town was going nutso with sex, drink and whatever....so the Christians gathered their like-minded together and decided to celebrate the birth of Jesus.
Non believers make such a big deal of this.

2006-12-19 23:27:39 · answer #6 · answered by D.W. 6 · 0 0

Your logic is funny. "Since Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, all Christianity is false". No one says he is born exactly on December 25th, that is just the day we set apart to remember it. I know it was set to reflect the celebrations of Saturnalia, but I certainly do not engage in any worship of the sun; I just worship the Son, and not just on December 25th, but every day.

Besides, do you know the birth of Christopher Columbus ranges from about 1430 to the mid 1450s? So compared to Columbus, we can guess far more accurately the birth of Christ than the birth of Columbus. I love it when we know more, historically, about ancient figures than we do about semi-modern ones.

2006-12-19 22:57:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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2016-10-15 07:20:50 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

To the extent that Christianity is pagan, it is human and thus valid. To the extent that Christianity is monotheistic and Abrahamic, it is unnatural.

Yule Mubarak,

Lazarus

2006-12-19 22:48:01 · answer #9 · answered by The Man Comes Around 5 · 0 0

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