if the Quran God's words so why there is?

Question

is there any resonable muslim who can give a real answer for this question or most of muslim don't have good answer on Y/A . i hope i will find at least one.

1 - The quran has been written before the arabic letter has been changed so what make the arabic letters in today quran the same of what has been there when it wrote?

2- Why there is Wrong Arabic Grammers in Quran?

3- Why there is Satan words in Quran (surat el Jinn) and there is no different from the rest of Quran.

4- where is the original Quran?
u always ask where is the original of the bible but i am asking where is the original of Quran or the written which has been collected to be Quran?

i mean the Arabic Grammer everyone in the Arab worlds knows that there is mistakes in the Arabic grammars.

Ibn adam
thanks for ur answer but i didn't understand was it the answer of my questions

Sameh if i tried to add dots to ur name how many words i will get
سامح، سامخ، سامج، شامخ، شامح، شامج، سافح، سافخ، سافج، شافخ، شاقح
and i can do more

Ralph u r mentioned good point
the letter has been changed if u didn't hear this before u just did

sorry for my broken english i will try to rephrase
as a muslim faith, quran is the word of God
but there is surat Jinn which as muslim faith the jinn who spoke it.
if u compare this sura with the other suras in the quran u won't c any different in d grammer, words or the way its spoken
نفس الاسلوب لا اختلاف

Check under Phonetic variation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Arabic

what they say its the original quran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Uthman_moshaf.jpg
no dots on the letters

Answer 1

Where are all the Muslims?? Haha...

Anyway, here is my answer:

1. The others have already told you, there is not much in the changes. Anyway, let say the arabic letters change on 800. AD. Don't you think that the Muslims scholars at that time would know the changes and then replaced the old letters with the new ones. It makes no differerence then. Do you need further explanantion cause i'm willing to do so.

2. My dearly arab sister, i think you should learn your the history of the Arabic language. Don't you know that the grammars that you and i, or all the arabs are using today comes from the Quran? Quran in the textbook of the Arabic grammars. Not very difficult to understand, huh. Its not logical to say that theres a grammatical error in the source where the grammar is derived from.

3. In Surat Al Jinn. Hehe. I know, the Jinn sayings was in the Quran but! It was narrated by Allah. And so, even if the Jinn's grammar is like really bad. I mean Allah obvioudly woulnt say the way the Jinn said it. (with bad grammars and all).

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Say: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!"

This is pretty simple analyse it.

4. Original Quran? Are you asking me for Angel Jibreel/Gabriel or Allah? The original Quran is from Allah and brought to Muhammad pbuh by Jibreel. Its passed down. Muhammad being illiterate, early muslim followers wrote down the verses. Later it was collected and arrange to the length of the chapters after the death of Muhammad pbuh.

Answer 2

1. To tell the truth I have no idea why you think that the Arab letters were changed, never heard about but there are copies of Quran that still exist which were written literally after several years after the death of the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) and those copies are ABSOLUTELY identical to any copy you can buy in any book store nowadays. If you think otherwise, please present your proofs and sources.

2. Where did you find them? Quote. There is not a single grammatical error in Quran otherwise you would have surely presented the reference numbers of verses. But you did not.

3. What do you mean "there is no different from the rest of Quran"? What kind of English is that? You should try to make yourself more understandable if you want reasonable answers, as you say.

4. Go to any book store and ask for Quran in Arabic. THAT IS CALLED ORIGINAL QURAN.
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THIS IS MY ANSWER TO THE NEW ADDITIONS YOU MADE:

YOU SAID:
"""""Ralph u r mentioned good point
the letter has been changed if u didn't hear this before u just did""""

OK, NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN "BY THEY CHANGED THE LETTERS".

LETTERS WERE NOT CHANGED. THEY JUST ADDED POINTS ABOVE AND UNDER THE LETTERS SO NON-ARABS COULD ALSO READ QURAN PROPERLY.

YOU SEE, ARABS HAD NO PROBLEMS READING THE WAY IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE NATIVE SPEAKER. BUT AS ISLAM STARTED SPREADING BEYOND ARABIA OTHERS ALSO STARTED READING QURAN AND FOR THEIR CONVENIENCE IT WAS DECIDED TO ADD POINTS - JUST POINTS - SO THEY, NON-ARABS, COULD ALSO READ QURAN CORRECTLY.

IN OTHER WORDS, NO ONE CHANGED THE LETTERS.
THEY JUST ADDED THE ADDITIONAL POINTS TO PRESERVE THE CORRECT AND ORIGINAL READING OF QURAN.



FURTHER YOU SAID:
"""sorry for my broken english i will try to rephrase
as a muslim faith, quran is the word of God
but there is surat Jinn which as muslim faith the jinn who spoke it.
if u compare this sura with the other suras in the quran u won't c any different in d grammer, words or the way its spoken""""

SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT????

I HOPE YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE WORDS AND GRAMMAR IN THE SURA JINN ARE THE SAME WITH THE REST OF QURAN, SO THE WHOLE QURAN WAS WRITTEN BY SATAN......

BUT IN QURAN YOU CAN ALSO FIND THE WORDS OF OTHER MANY PEOPLE, ANGELS AND CREATURES.
SO THEY ALL WROTE THE QURAN TOO??????

WORDS AND GRAMMAR ARE THE SAME BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS OF ARABIC LANGUAGE.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

Answer 3

Since the Quran says it's a no-no to question the Quran, Allah or Muhammad, under penality of death, most Muslims tend to simply quote the "party line" like the ACLU does in high profile cases.

I would be shocked to hear valid answers.

There are few people who can effectively translate the original text, which is where there are so many different English translations.

Sadly the Christian Bible faces a similar task as the Greek it was written in is NOT the Greek spoken in Greece today.

You'll get 10 different views from ten different lingustic experts on what the 300 AD Bible says, let alone the earlier editions.

Answer 4

The Quran is obviously now not God's Word and it is going to by no means be God's Word. a million. Angels dont move approximately strangling guys and once they seem to us they quite often seem like folks (despite the fact that they don't seem to be folks). Muhammad used to be virtually strangled via the so known as Gabriel. He even known as the angel a spirit and stated after the come upon he felt like he used to be possessed. Angels dont posses folks, they provide messages two. The Quran overtly contradicts the very Words that God spent countless numbers of years telling His folks. These adding the deity of Jesus Christ, His loss of life and resurrection, the deity of the Holy Spirit. three. There are not any prophecies within the Quran. God says within the Bible that He shall decree a factor earlier than it occurs so He can exhibit Himself amazing to us. The few that Muhammad claimed to be prophecies didn't even come to cross. I am speakme approximately prophecies and now not predictions like you realize there's a battle taking place and you are saying such and a such will win. That isn't prophecy four. Muhammad used to be no prophet. Study the Bible and you'll understand that he had studied the actual Word of God and twisted it into the Quran. Thank God he didn't smash all of the originals. five. If muhammad used to be God's prophet, why did not he resurrect as he had claimed he might after his loss of life? You understand, a counterfeit deceives greater than a complete lie. Try to imitate the fashioned and a few folks is not going to even understand you're giving them a false

Answer 5

I have read the Qur'an (and consider it nonsense), but a Muslim would probably answer your questions as follows:
1. Arabic letters have not changed much. A scholar fluent in Arabic could probably read the old texts without much difficulty. However, the original written versions were not written with the short vowel markings that are now used, and since the meaning of Arabic words is heavily dependent on the vowels, this is a weakness.
2. Do you in fact know that there are grammatical errors? (I have no data on this myself.)
3. You have to describe evil if you wish to inveigh against it.
4. The original was verbal, not written. It was memorized by Muhammad's followers, and not written down until some years after Muhammad died. This actually is one of the stronger arguments against its integrity, as anyone who has played "Telephone" is quite well aware.

The real problem with the Qur'an is that it has errors.

Answer 6

I bet it's hard to live in the middle and be a Chirstian at the same time.

Yes, this is a good question I know for a fact that the orginal Quran was compiled by Zaid bin Thabit under the guidance of Mohammed's father-in-law, Abu-Bekr. But in 650 a group of scholars produced a unified version and destoryed all copies of the orginal writtings to preserve the unity of the Quran.

The Bible was unified from the time of its writing. The Quran had to be unified through the editing of men.

Answer 7

arabic letters didn't change that much, just some dotting representations on some letters. and it is the same to keep some pointers that help in reading and pronouncing quran in correct way (some pronouncing techniques but not necessary).
secon of all, quran has no wrong grammer at all, and i can assure u that alot of grammer teached in high school is based on quran specially (surat el fateha) and it's no easy. u r asking where is the original quran? quran has no distortion from the days of porphet mahammed till now because it is saved in muslims hearts not on a piece of paper. and im sorry i didn't understand the third question.

Answer 8

You are defiantly an Arab with terrible English. I still don't understand your question.
Hakeeka: if you really want the truth, post this question in any Islamic site. You will get the correct answer from scholars. You posted it here so that you can challenge us!! Nasty piece of work. I can see many Islam haters are eager to see answers. I will not look for the answer for you, you are not worth it. You don't believe our Holy Book is the word of God. Do you think we care??
Who are you to know about grammatical mistakes?? Most Arabs cannot understand the old Arabic language, same applies for other races.
Have the courage to say: Quran is not the word of God. Fanatics will not shoot you, they don't know where you live.
God's words have grammatical errors!!.....huh

Answer 9

"The Bible was unified from the time of its writing."

Actually no. It took a lot longer to canonize the bible than the Quran.

"In the fourth century a series of synods produced a list of texts equal to the 27-book canon of the New Testament that would be subsequently used to today. Also c. 400, Jerome produced a definitive Latin edition of the Bible"

Answer 10

Very good questions. These shoudl be folwarded to Al-Sistani --- I woudl be interested to find out the answers myself. I have sent these questions to Grand Ahtoloah Al-Sistani so that a proper answer might be obtained.