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Where are the originals?

If you mean to refer to the Injeel (the book revealed to Jesus /Eesaa, may Allaah exalt his mention) by the term (original bible), then we do not know the location of the copy you are asking about. But what we can say surely and without any doubt is that the Injeel has been altered and changed by human beings throughout history and the original copy no longer exists.

Therefore, a Muslim has no need to search for its original copy after Allaah has sent the great Quran. Allaah Says (which means): {And is it not sufficient for them that We revealed to you the Book [i.e. the Quran] which is recited to them? Indeed in that is a mercy and reminder for a people who believe.}[Quran 29:51].

He also Says (which means): {And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam], the Book [i.e. the Quran] in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it.}[Quran 5:48].

On the other hand, if by the term (original bible) you are referring to the book used by the Christians, then we say the following:

In the Quran Allaah informs us that He revealed a number of books, including the pages of Prophet Abraham, the Psalms of Prophet David, the Torah of Prophet Moses, the Injeel (Gospel) of Prophet Jesus, and finally, the Quran of Prophet Muhammad. Of these revealed texts only the Quran remains intact in its original form. All of the others (as complete books) have been lost, their remains have survived only as fragments or tampered with in some way so as to make their authenticity doubtful. No where in the Quran is the Bible even mentioned, to say nothing of its being among the revealed texts of Allaah, or as Christian claim "The Word of God." Further, we know from respected scholars that although some fragments of the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel (the teachings of Prophet Jesus) may be found in the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, the Bible can not rightfully be called "The Word of God." Why is this so?

As one publisher (Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., Wheaton, Illinois) stated: 'The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six books in one. Thirty-nine books make up what we call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven make up the New Testament. It is possible that more than forty writers were used by God to write all sixty-six books.' (Quoted from the "Holy Bible" – New Living Translation, Gift & Award Edition, l997, p. vii)

So if the Bible is neither narrated by God nor written by Him, and, as such, is not ‘the word of God,' then what is it? By any objective criteria, the Bible is a book containing a compilation of stories, legends, folk tales, folk lore, myths, sagas, narratives, poetry, fragments of scriptures (fragments from the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel as already mentioned), letters (esp. in New Testament), visions, dreams, accounts of events from doubtful sources (not eye witnesses), editors’ or scribes’ notes, as well as human errors.

For those who believe in it, it is a book that has historical, cultural, moral and ethical values, and a source of spiritual teaching and guidance. It is a book held in high esteem, primarily by Christians who see it as a divine book and the source of their religious beliefs. But, in the final analysis it is only a book with many limitations and imperfections which disqualify it from being called "The Word of God." Whoever makes such a claim then the burden of proof rests with him. On the contrary, the Glorious Quran is the Speech of Allaah and, through the Angel Gabriel, was revealed to Prophet Muhammad, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam; later compiled into a book more than 14 centuries ago it remains in its original form until today.

Some common misunderstandings about the Bible include the following:

* The Bible is one book, the Old Testament. The Bible contains sixty-six books (or more depending upon the denomination one belongs to).

* The Old Testament (OT) is the Torah followed by the Jews. The OT contains some fragments of the Torah which was lost and the Psalms, but the Talmud is the book followed by the Jews and is totally unrelated to the Bible.

* The New Testament (NT) is the Gospel of Prophet Jesus, or the Injeel. It is neither. It is made up of twenty-seven books, none of which was narrated or written by Prophet Jesus although the NT may contain fragments of the Injeel (sayings and teachings of Prophet Jesus). The Injeel as revealed through Prophet Jesus has been lost. The fragments which may be cited in the NT may not be authentic or in their proper context. So it is erroneous to equate the NT with the Injeel mentioned in the Quran.

* The Bible is a holy book, narrated, dictated by God and is infallible. While this is a claim, this misconception has already been addressed. Since the Bible is 'only' a book, there is no need to call it a forgery, a corrupted text, etc. The Quran is the only authentic "Word of God," His Speech, and Allaah has promised to protect it from distortion of any kind until the Day of Judgment and He has kept His promise. Not one letter or syllable has been changed over the past l4 centuries.

Allaah Knows best.
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What are the difference between Torah and Qur'an?

The common ground between the Noble Qur'an and the Torah is that both are Books revealed by Allah the Exalted through the Archangel Jibreel (Gabriel), peace be upon him. Yet, the essential differences between these tow Books are the following: 1) The Holy Qur'an is preserved by Allah Almighty against interpolation and adulteration, as Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)[15:9]. As for the Torah, it did not escape such interpolation and adulteration. 2) The Holy Qur'an was sent down on Allah's Messenger, Muhammad, sporadically (in steps) according to separate occasions and events, while the Torah was revealed all at once. 3) The Qur'an constitutes a commanding law whose validity is continuous till Doomsday, whereas the Torah was abrogated by the Qur'an being the last revealed Book and being supremely predominant over all of the previous Scriptures. Allah Almighty Says: And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures)[5:48] Allah knows best.
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Do the Words 'Torat' and 'Injeel' in the Qur'an refer to the Original Uncorrupted Scriptures?

Question:

In your response to the recent article "If the Bible is corrupted..." (17th January), I feel it is also worth mentioning that the verses in question, (10,64) and (5,68) and other related verses obviously do not, and cannot refer to the "mainstream" scriptures that were/are corrupted in possession at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) and those that we have now.

I think, from my general understanding of these verses, the Qur'an obviously refers to the true, original, uncorrupted scriptures that were given to the people aforetime (i.e. Jews and Christians). This is especially apparent in Surah 5, verse 68.

So the Torah and the Injil mentioned in the Qur'an most certainly cannot be the "Old Testament", the "Pentateuch" or the "New Testament" as we have today, but the original Torah and Gospel as was revealed to both Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh).

Therefore is it not better understood logically that these verses in fact refer to the scriptures that were revealed in a pure state and not the corrupted versions?

Please tell me if I am wrong in any way.

Thank you,



Answer:

The Qur'an, by the names 'Torah' and 'Injeel' refers to what was called 'Torah' and 'Injeel' in the environment in which the Qur'an was revealed. It is obvious that had the Qur'an implied something else by these words, it was then necessary to clarify that the words were being used to imply something different from what they were commonly used in the environment. It should be kept in mind that the implication of words in a good piece of literature cannot be against the common usage of such words. If such is the case, it can only be considered a flaw of that piece of literature. For example, in the contemporary English language, the phrase "the prophet" (in singular form) is used only for Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)[1]. If any contemporary English writer uses the phrase to imply any other person, it would only be considered a serious mistake and flaw in his writing, unless he/she explicitly or implicitly[2] clarifies in his writing that the phrase has been used in a meaning different from its generally understood connotation.

It may, however, be noted that the 'Torah' and the 'Injeel' (especially the Injeel) that we have in our hands today are not necessarily the ones which were referred to as the Torah and the Injeel by the first addressees of the Qur'an. This is substantiated by a few references of the Qur'an to the Jews and Christians living in the environment of the revelation of the Qur'an. For instance, the Qur'an has referred to a particular sect of Jews, who hold "`uzair" to be the son of God. This obviously is a reference to a particular sect of Jews, who held `uzair to be the Son of God (as the mainstream Jews do not, generally, ascribe to this belief). Furthermore, it should be interesting to note that the Qur'an has referred to the Christians in its environment, by the name of "Nasaara", while, it is known that the general (mainstream) Christians had come to be known as "Christians" or "Maseehee" from a very early period of Christianity (as is mentioned in the Biblical book "Acts of the Prophets"). In view of this fact, it seems quite plausible that the Christians living in the Arabian Peninsula at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an were generally those who ascribed to the Nazarene creed. The Nazarenes were a Syrian Judeo-Christian sect that came to be recognized in the fourth century AD. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica:

Although they [the Nazarenes] accepted the divinity of Christ and his supernatural birth, the Nazarenes also maintained strict observance of Jewish laws and customs, a practice that had been dropped by the majority of Jewish Christians. They used a version of the Gospel in Aramaic called the Gospel According to the Hebrews, or the Gospel of the Nazarenes.

However, it is extremely unfortunate that the Injeel according to the Hebrews or the Gospel of the Nazarenes (which was probably the book referred to as 'Injeel' in the environment in which the Qur'an was revealed) is nowhere to be found anymore, as has been mentioned in the quote of the Encyclopedia.

This is my opinion regarding the references of the Qur'an to the two books. However, do let me know if I have failed to fully clarify my point of view.

19th January 2000


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[1] Refer to the word 'Prophet' in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Encyclopedic Dictionary, third impression, 1995.

[2] Implicit clarification may be through the context in which the word is being used.
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Prophet doesn't says from his own wish and will and he was not a witness present at the time of the revelations of the previous scriptures by GOD.
Prophet only says what he has been commanded by GOD. GOD says this


THE PROPHETIC COMMENTARY
OF THE QUR'AN

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The Qur'ân came to humanity after all the previous revealed scriptures had either been lost or, like the Torah and the Gospel , corrupted. Allah speaks about how people had corrupted the scriptures, saying: “Woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say: ‘This is from Allah' to gain from it a paltry price. So woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gain from it.” [ Sûrah al-Baqarah : 79]
http://www.islamtoday.net/english/librar...

2006-12-18 20:45:31 · answer #1 · answered by A2Z 4 · 0 6

i think of you mean the situation of the prophetic books on the tip of the Hebrew Bible, and that i disagree with the assumption. It does not. a minimum of no longer the Gospels as written. in accordance to the prophets, the Gospels may be a historic account of the liberation of Judea from the Romans in the process the management of the Jewish Messiah who led his people to overcome Rome, and set up a one, international government that should pass directly to rule over all lands interior the region of Rome.

2016-10-15 05:38:51 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

PROPHECY 1S IN 59 OF THE 66 BOOK OF KJV BIBLE

Major for the last days or time of the end book of Daniel as all is in sum at Dan.12:1-13 And Michael of Judge 9 and Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12 and holy angels cast Satan and unholy angels down Gen.3:15 is fulfilled and angels are separated with ENEMIES Matt.22:42-44; down, the word is there, Satan has a short time to Rev.20:1-6,12,13 [ No Satan ]; John 3:13-17; to 6:39,40,44; 14:3; A PLACE IS PREPARED for heavenly Mark.13:27; to be where Jesus is, Michael is there to last 1Thes.4:15-17; The caught up to be with Jesus.
Matt.24:3,7,14,15,22,34,36-38 [ Only God knows day and hour ];
But Satan and unholy angels are out and Jesus with his heavenly head of the church body will reign.

Eph.2:7; 3:21; The world with Jesus is without end.

ALL THE PROPHETS BEFORE AND IN TIME OF KINGS

Enoch 987 After Adam 930, and all the prophets.
1656 flood year Noah 350 and Shem 502 years after flood.
0427 Abraham son #20 Gen.12:4; Promised Land covenant.
0430 Moses Exo.7:7 [age 80]; 12:40,41; Gal.3:16-18;
0040 Miriam Exo.15:20;33:38,39; Aaron. Deut.34:7; Moses.
0301 Joshua 5:6,10,14; Deborah Judges 5:1,31; 11:26 [301 ];
0040 Saul king-----Eli-1Samuel 4:15,18; 7:2,13,15; 25:1;
0040 David king---David Acts 2:27-35; Abinadab 2Sam.6:3;
0040 Solomon-----Nathan and Gad 1077-977.2Sam.7:2; 24:11;
0017 Rehoboam--Ahijah 1120-920.1Ki.11:29;12:22 Shemaiah
0003 Abijam-------Jehu 1Ki.16:7;1000-900.
0041 Asa king-----Old Prophet & man of God 1Ki.13:11;
0040 Jehosaphat-Micaiah 1Ki.22:9; 977-677.
0008 Jehoram----Elijah 1Ki.18:1 967-867
0001 Ahaziah-----Amitai 929-829.
0006 Athalia-------Elisha 2Ki.2:1; 957-857
0040 Jehoash----Hosea 1:1; Isaiah 827 to 714-Assyria #2.
0029 Amaziah----Zephaniah 1:1 Jonah 2Ki.14:25;
0052 Uzziah------Amos 1:1; Micah 800-700.Jer.26:18;
0016 Jotham-----Nahum 1:1; Obadiah 1:1;
0016 Ahaz king--Habakkuk 1:1;
0029 Hezekiah---Joel 1:1;
0002 Amon king--Jeremiah-Baruch 526-606-Lamentations-626
0031 Josiah-------Ezekiel 1:1; 540-640-Huldah
0011 Jehoiakim--Daniel 533-633
0011 Zedekiah---Iddo Neh.12:16; Babylon #3.
0070 Cyrus-------Empire #4.
0093 Ezra 1:1; Haggai 1:1 Mordecai. Malach1 1:1;
---------------------Nehemiah 1:1; Zechariah 1:1;
THE LAW [ MOSES ], AND THE PROPHETS WERE UNTIL JOHN THE BAPTIST
Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time
the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one
tittle of the law to fail.
LUKE16:29
Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let
them hear them. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses
and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded,though one rose from the dead.

2006-12-19 17:18:45 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

There is prophesy in every book of the bible, Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophesy, and he wrote the whole bible. The book of Revelation is the grand central station of all bible prophesy. God created his Word as a marvelous tapestry and it is entirely woven together and interconnected. It is truly infinite and was written down by men for God, but it was created outside of time.

2 Tim 3:16-17

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV

2006-12-18 20:53:22 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Revelation is the only prophetic book. The rest of it tells of what already came and gone.

2006-12-18 20:44:31 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Most of the books have some prophecy in them.
I Cr 13;8a
12-19-6

2006-12-18 20:44:14 · answer #6 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

Some of Daniel, Some of Isiah and Revelation

2006-12-18 21:07:55 · answer #7 · answered by bcooper_au 6 · 0 0

I didn't know there were any!

2006-12-18 20:44:00 · answer #8 · answered by judy_r8 6 · 0 0

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