Prove to me god exists and I might start believing. Fact is you can't. The bible was written many years after the stories it covers were "supposed" to have happened. A story which was handed down from person to person.... how can we be sure any of it is true as the stories probably changed with every person who told it.
You must have played the game chinese whispers from the person who says something to the last person who speaks it.... you only have to see how wrong the original message was.
I think we evolved from a BIG BANG yes! But god had no part of it.
2006-12-18 06:14:53
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answer #1
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answered by lollipoppett2005 6
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I don't believe in God because it makes no sense to do so. Your argument says that if things are beautiful in your eyes, God must exist. That is neither reasonable nor sufficient. There is beauty and ugliness, and most of that comes from our interpretation. A waste dump, with rotting food, is vile to humans, but to rats and gulls it's a feast.
Here are some details about why I don't believe in God. First, you have to define the term "God." The problem with most theists is that this term is a moving target.
In addition, because there is no evidence either for or against the existence of God, you cannot use deductive logic (a+b=c; therefore c-b=a). You can only reach a conclusion by inductive reasoning using the balance of evidence (90% of A is also B; C is B, so the chances are 90% that C is also A).
I will assert (and others may shoot this down) that the only RELEVANT definition of God states that he intervenes to circumvent natural laws.
If God circumvents natural laws, then it is impossible to understand natural laws. All scientific findings would have to include the stipulation, "it is also possible that these results are an act of God, a miracle, thereby making our research meaningless."
However, since we have been able to expand our knowledge of natural laws (evidenced by every appliance in your kitchen), the scientific method works in this discovery. And the likely conclusion is that God, at least the intervening kind, does not exist.
Additionally, if God is defined as all loving, all powerful, and all knowing, then it is impossible to explain suffering. Either God is not all loving (he acts sadistically), not all powerful (he cannot prevent suffering), or not all knowing (he created suffering by mistake because he didn't know the consequences of his actions).
If God is less than these and/or does not intervene in our existence, then he is either non-existent or irrelevant. The classic argument is that I cannot prove that a china teapot is orbiting the sun directly across from the earth's orbit. But while I cannot prove this is not true, the evidence against it is compelling.
The evidence against God is equally compelling, and while it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, it makes more sense to live your life as if there were not God.
It is more compelling to me that humans have invented God to reflect the thoughts of the ruling powers in a particular time. Because humans are always looking for reasons, when none are found, it was the natural inclination to declare the cause to be "God" (or gods). As the faith grew, miracles and laws have been ascribed to this Divinity, and an orthodoxy grows up around it.
Now it seems unhelpful to believe in such superstition. The only matters that aid in our ongoing well being are work, location, health, sustenance, and pure, blind luck.
So no, I don't believe God exists. And you know what? It's okay if you do believe God exists.
2006-12-18 14:16:03
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answered by NHBaritone 7
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I look around and see everything you see but I don't feel the need to assume that there is a God behind what is here.
It helps you feel in control of the world if you can "explain" how it came to be the way it is today. So you think that believing in a God explains things. Actually, it explains nothing.
All that we see around us can be verified but God cannot be verified. There is no way to show, prove, or verify that a God exists.
You want to believe that a God exists but you have no way to show, prove, or verify that a God exists. So it appears that you are assuming something exists that has as much validity as unicorns or fairies. Beliefs don't make things true or bring them into existence. That is childish thinking. Time to grow up.
I don't know if everything came from the Big Bang. But in saying I don't know, I am not forced to assume some magical creature exists that anything to do with the creation of the world. It may be that it is impossible for the universe not to exist in a way that we don't understand. I don't know. But I admit my ignorance and don't feel a need to pretend I know something that I don't.
The truth is that YOU don't know that there is a God. You just haven't realized that yet. You are confusing belief with knowledge. They are not the same thing.
2006-12-18 14:24:40
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answered by Alan Turing 5
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Despite all the glorious universe around us, "ooh" and "aah" and "look at the pretty flower" do not constitute proof of God. Perhaps if there is a God, the big bang is the way in which he chose to create it, unless you believe the creation story of Genesis verbatim as a literal scientific and historical document. Who is a believer more than anyone else to question the exact manner that God may have used to create this universe?
2006-12-18 14:33:45
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answered by ? 4
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How can you think some magical sky god created all this? To CREATE all this he'd have to be a complicated thing himself. Complicated things evolve. Everything started out simple and through slow gradual processes evolved to become more complicated as time went on.
Now, are you SERIOUSLY telling us there is a complicated being called God who always existed or just popped up?
Something must have created him. Then THAT guy then THAT guy who created the first guy (*your* god) and so on...
Your answer, "God created everything" doesn't answer ANYTHING! It leaves more questions. It's a "gap" for what we don't understand. Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean we should halt science and give the credit to an imaginary friend of yours. It doesn't work that way.
2006-12-18 14:25:29
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answered by Anonymous
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If you want to use stuff like the sky, the sun, the trees as evidence, are you trying to suggest a literal interpretation of the creation myth in Genesis? Like God just made it all, just like it is today, out of nothing; and there was no evolution and development of over eons?
If so, do you subscribe to the idea that dinosaur fossils and the myriad of physical evidence that the Earth is millions of years old was simply "put there by God to test your faith?"
If it did all unfold over time, why do you need the idea that there was some conscious designer who put all that stuff together out of creative whim?
Yes there's all kind of amazing things in the universe around us, but none of that is evidence that someone designed any of it.
2006-12-18 14:25:48
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answered by Sir N. Neti 4
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Who says someone HAS to believe in God? What proof do you have that God created the environment around us? The Bible? A book that was written 3,000 years ago based on spirit? The Bible is filled with a bunch of theories not facts. It's not the word of God, it's a book.
2006-12-18 14:56:09
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answered by Jerrod M 2
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I, myself, have also never understood this. How can someone NOT believe in Odinn, our blessed All Father? He gave us the secret of the runes rather than hoard them for himself despite what he went through to get them. How can someone NOT believe in Thor, the friendliest of the Gods, protector of mankind and the social order? How can someone NOT believe in Frey, the one who makes the crops grow year after year?
And don't even get me started about how many people don't believe in the blessed Goddesses!
You stick to your religion, I'll stick to mine. I choose not to follow a middle eastern religion since I am not of middle eastern heritage. I am a pasty white Scandinavian type, not Jewish or Arabic or anything like that. Not that there's anything wrong with being one of those things. However, I do feel there is something inherently wrong in turning your back on the gods and goddesses who gave you life by nurturing your ancestors so that one day you may come to be, in favor of the god of the ones who tried so desperately to wipe us from the face of the earth.
At least this time the forced christianization attempt is a rather half-hearted one. I've not heard of a snake being forced down anyone's throat for refusing to convert to christianity in centuries, matter of fact. Glad you're a bit more civilized now.
Hagel Odinn!
~Morg~
2006-12-18 14:30:46
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answered by morgorond 5
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Consider this:
Accept that God created the Heavens and the Earth and the plants of the field and beasts and mankind, and all manner of things that groweth and creepeth upon the Earth, etc. Therefore he existed -- at one time.
There's been no direct observations of God in the past 1,970 years. So even if you're accepting that God existed at one time, you don't really know whether or not He still does.
Religion takes faith. Faith isn't always easy.
2006-12-18 15:29:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, an inflationary era, to be most precise. But yes. Don't forget the many marvelous natural processes that came afterwards like gravity and thermodynamics and nuclear fusion etc. To say it JUST came from the inflationary era loses so much of the detail.
2006-12-18 14:15:56
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answered by Anonymous
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