"Christians claim that ths particular universe can be explained as God's choice, taken from an infinite range of alternatives, for reasons that are unknown to us. But even an omnipotent God cannot break the rules of logic. God cannot make 2=3, or make a square a circle. The hasty assumption that God can create any universe must be qualified by the restriction that it be logically consistent. Now if there exists only one logically consistent universe then God would effectively have had no choice at all. If there really is only one possible sort of creation, why do we need a creator at all? What function could he have save for "pushing the button" to set the thing going? But such a function does not require a mind--it would merely be a triggering mechanism and even that is not needed in the world of quantum physics. So does this philosophy of a uniquephysical solution to the fundamental logical-mathemtical equation of the universe deny the existence of God? Indeed not.
2006-12-18 05:12:44 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It makes redundant the idea of God-the-creator, but it does not rule out a universal mind existing as part of that unique physical universe: a natural, as opposed to supernatural God. Of course, "part of" in this context does not mean "located somewhere in space" any more than our own minds can be located in space. Nor does it mean "made out of atoms" any more than our minds (as opposed to our brains) are made out of atoms. The brain is the medium of expression of the human mind. Similarly the entire physical universe would be the medium of expression of the mind of a natural God. In this context, God is the supreme holistic concept, perhaps many levels of description about that of the human mind."
2006-12-18 05:16:19 · update #1
It's an exploration of possibilities based on the evidence available which is what science is all about.
2006-12-18 05:31:12 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is not at all limited to our logic as Paul Davies made out. He is God the Trinity - which cannot be explained by logic. He choose whether or not we live in a Euclidian space or not, which basically changes the definitions of geometry. He made nothing out of something, which is like making 0=1. God defined the Universe and we defined logic from the Universe! He is not some trigger, He is the all-powerful God that did not only create the universe with certain characteristics but also created complex human beings with souls and spirits and He wants to have a relationship with every human being on this planet through the forgiveness and new life from Christ Jesus.
2006-12-18 05:44:15 · answer #2 · answered by Creationist 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sounds like a clockwork universe.
I'd agree that the fact that the universe works according to certain measurable principles does not rule out the existance of a god. The reason I think of a god as unlikely is that you can't find or measure the deity himself through the same means as you can measure everything else in the universe.
2006-12-18 05:19:36 · answer #3 · answered by Let Me Think 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
So he's basically saying that we don't need god, but that's not a reason for there to be no god. I'm sure he's a fine physicist, but I wouldn't take him at his word about anything else. I have a friend who's a physicist who will tell you that just because the chances of you being able to walk through a solid brick wall are infintesimly small, that doesn't mean that it's stupid to think it will work on the first try.
2006-12-18 05:19:06 · answer #4 · answered by eri 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There are no alternatives for anything other than what is right now. Given that, what and where we are right now is inevitable, as inevitable as our location in space. All things are the way they are because they have to be that way. Life exists. Since life exists it is a consequence of existence. It cannot be any other way and it doesn't need a god to make it that way.
2006-12-18 05:17:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It seems like the old dodge of "god gets a special magic box that is outside of the rules". He's just said it with more polysyllabic words.
2006-12-18 05:16:01 · answer #6 · answered by Black Parade Billie 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The idea that there is only one logically consistent universe is at odds with what we know about mathematics, logic, physics and astronomy.
2006-12-18 05:33:13 · answer #7 · answered by Ranto 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree. I believe that God was the big bang. Evolution then took over.
2006-12-18 05:16:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Interesting. Lines up decently with one of my I-*might*-believe -this scenarios.
2006-12-18 05:18:15 · answer #9 · answered by angk 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋