with Karma everything adds up there is no quick fix, which means that your whole life is constantly judged. with christian forgivness you could be a mass murderer/rappist and then one day say god I'm truly sorry please forgive me" and poof all the bad deeds are gone. So therefore Hitler could very well be with god right?
Don't you think that if the christian world operated accordingly to karma it would be a much better place? forgivness only through actions.
2006-12-18 04:54:58 · 14 answers · asked by jallygood 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Karma was spoke of in the Bible before it was edited (King James Version). They took it out so that people would go to church with their money seeking forgivness. You can't stop Universal Law. Yes, they should take a serious look at what they do, and be aware that there is no quick fix to erase ones bad deeds in life!
2006-12-18 05:01:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes. I do believe that it would be much better if people thought about what they were doing before they did it. Excellent point! What is comes to is basically taking responsibility for your actions, which is something many people refuse to do.
"Refuting the erroneous view that "whatsoever fortune or misfortune experienced is all due to some previous action", the Buddha said:
"So, then, according to this view, owing to previous action men will become murderers, thieves, unchaste, liars, slanderers, covetous, malicious and perverts. Thus, for those who fall back on the former deeds as the essential reason, there is neither the desire to do, nor effort to do, nor necessity to do this deed, or abstain from this deed."
It was this important text, which states the belief that all physical circumstances and mental attitudes spring solely from past Karma that Buddha contradicted. If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Being created by an Almighty God who controls our destinies and predetermines our future, or being produced by an irresistible Karma that completely determines our fate and controls our life’s course, independent of any free action on our part, is essentially the same. The only difference lies in the two words God and Karma. One could easily be substituted for the other, because the ultimate operation of both forces would be identical."
2006-12-18 04:58:35 · answer #2 · answered by Justsyd 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your deeds can not get you into the kingdom of heaven. The reason you ask for forgiveness is because you are repenting and saying you don't want to do it again.
As for a quick fix? No there is no poof and all the bad deeds are gone. The effects are still there, you still have to live with what you have done.
God Bless. I am glad its not just Karma or I and many would be beaten up on a regular here on earth.
2006-12-18 05:03:31 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Forgiveness of sin is entirely up to God, not us. Salvation is not a "magic eraser", or an "ace in the hole" that we can use whenever we like. It's not in our power or control. Those who are being saved were predestined, chosen of God, from before time began. Not everyone who says "Lord" will enter into heaven.
Don't be deceived.
Karma vs Christian forgiveness.... forgiveness is more like dharma. Karma is more like the golden rule, you get what you give and deserve, a cause and effect scenario. Forgiveness is more about a person not getting what they deserve. It is love, mercy and grace in action. It is a right way of living to higher truths, choosing that justice and punishment be withheld when due.
The Christian world DOES operate in a way that the world could be a better place. Love... and forgiveness IS love in action.
2006-12-18 05:27:21 · answer #4 · answered by Bill Mac 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That is only a partial understanding of Karma.
Karma can be transcended - FYI.
Furthermore...
"Truly being sorry" - and repenting are key points. To truly understand your wrong-doing so you could not do it again. How many get to this point? It is easy to just ask forgiveness and yet do it again and again - in those situations you were never forgiven (you have not repented and sinned no more).
Once you learn the lesson - what is the point of punishment (karma). Understanding/repenting dissolves bad karma.
The two ideas (karma and forgiveness) are not in contradiction, as you believe.
~ Eric Putkonen
2006-12-18 05:05:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe the concept of Karma is similar, but not exactly as the Biblical concept of "your sins will find you out". The Biblical concept of you reap what you sow is also similar. Both are results of action and reaction. But with the concept of Biblical forgiveness and Karma are two separate ideas.
Forgiveness demands repentance, i.e. changing one's behavior from that of rebelling against God to that of serving him. The concept of Forgiveness ENDS the cycle of evil.
In order for the Adulterous Woman to be forgiven, Jesus told her "go and sin no more" (John 5). The cycle stopped.
When Saul of Tarsus was forgiven (Acts 22), he stopped his murderous threats against the early Christians. He also started preaching the gospel of Peace and Love through a transformed life of each individual.
True New Testament Christianity is displayed by the fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5): Love, Joy Peace, Patience, Kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and selfcontrol."
Jesus said "by their fruits you shall know them".
Biblical forgiveness ENDS the cycle of evil.
2006-12-18 06:28:03 · answer #6 · answered by Jeff T 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The big difference is that karma (at least in the way I was taught about it, in Mahayana Buddhism) is dispassionate. Essentially it's another force of the universe, same as gravity, and does not judge but simply measures suffering caused to other sentient creatures versus suffering relieved. Very very different ideas behind it.
2006-12-18 04:59:20 · answer #7 · answered by angk 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You reap what you sow meaning whatever you do is going to come back and get you. Yes even the vilest person can be saved by grace if he bows before the Lord and asks forgiveness. God is our final judge and he knows our heart.
2006-12-18 05:02:07 · answer #8 · answered by B"Quotes 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, because if everyone did good deeds only because they could get something back, then there wouldn't be any real generosity to their actions. Everyone's life would end up to be only self-serving instead of serving God and others out of love.
2006-12-18 04:59:17 · answer #9 · answered by Cylon Betty 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God tells us we reap what we sow, and Karma is the same idea, you get back what you give. God may forgive, but that doesnt mean you wont reap the consequnces of your actions.
2006-12-18 04:57:32 · answer #10 · answered by sweetie_baby 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋