Should Israel be dismantled for being unholy and evil?

Question

The country is a military state, religion in name only. How many innocent people have they butchered? Are they all destined to hell? If they're a religion of peace why do they even pick up guns in the first place?

No-one has an answer! I thought not. Aren't you a religion of peace? But Israel isn't is it? It's just an american colony!

Answer 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPMHJsgSTI

People who say that little old Israel fighting all the mighty Arab states is like fighting Goliath are morons... Israel is much much much more powerful than any Arab state neighboring them...
I suppose the outnumbered Brits beating the Zulus was a triumph because the Brits were outnumbered...

L'Chaim: Two wrongs do not make a right. Jews suffered in the past, big deal, all our ancestors have been oppressed. But I suppose you can keep pretending to yourself that the world is upset with Israel because it's inhabited by Jews and not because of , torture, murder, war crimes, invasion, apartheid and way too many other things to name... You Jews tend to be a very intelligent people but many of you refuse to accept the horrors that your brethren in Israel are causing, it's easy to say it's just anti-semitism... but, it's more logical to actually look at what's going on right now (see link): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPMHJsgSTI

Answer 2

If Isreal is dismantled then perhaps we should get rid of allsorts of Government because inevitable there is going to be a killing either by natural causes or by human ones. What makes us the decision makers of what is right and what is wrong? Religions tend to think they are beyound the ultimate rule of good and evil and who really knows which of the 2 is truly the better. I may do something evil and it turn out that may be what was needed and get a medal for my efforts and on the other hand I may do something noble and it backfire to make me look like an interfereing ***. Go figure!!

Answer 3

Let Israel exist.

And also even the unholy and evil need a place to exist.



There's no problem with being a military state, the problem lies more on saying you're something that you're not.

Peace can be achieved through various ways, alliances, agreements, wars, and so on are just ways.

Also Israel isn't a colony of the USA, it's more like the other way around. The USA feels more like a colony of Israel. The same goes for Britain, Germany, and even Nazi Germany.

Answer 4

Israel is neither unholy nor evil. It a tiny country of barely 6 million people, which is fighting for its existence against 200 million Arabs in 22 countries surrounding it; just like David fought Goliath!

Answer 5

go ahead and try to dismantle Israel.

The Bible says that one day all the nations will go after Israel and God Himself will step in a defend them.

Hope you get on the right side before then.

GOd has not forgotten His promise to Abraham, David, or Jeremiah, or Isaiah or the Christians.

God forgive you.

Answer 6

L 'Chaim,
Sir I am a Christian Minister. I just want YOU to know I support your Nation, and Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I also want to say Amen to YOU , and God Bless YOU !
God Bless Israel !
Minister

Answer 7

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE WORLD

Dear World,

I understand that you are upset by us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry. (Outraged?)

Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset by us. Not long ago, it was the “disproportionate bombing” in Lebanon, before that it was the "brutal repression of the Palestinians"; before that it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we - the Jewish people - upset you.

We upset a German people who elected Hitler and upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians and Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset.

We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us.

For centuries, we upset a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through inquisitions, and we upset the arch-enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish state. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you and disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you (and thus love you) - and have you love us and so, we decided to come home - home to the same land we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please.

Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East

Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The "radical" Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel.

In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929.

Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967?

And when you, dear world, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a "Palestinian State" alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried "no" and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that "upset" caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of "upset" then?

The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who ­ when they had all the territories they now demand be given to them for their state -attempted to drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "itbach-al-yahud" (Massacre the Jew!) that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today, but we should not "repress" them.

Dear world, you stood by during the holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres.

You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction.

And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well ­ think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who could not care less.

Answer 8

I don't know about being dismantled but they should thoroughly have a change in attitude. Is it okay for the Zionists to claim other people's houses as their own and to try to practice genocide on other nations but wrong for the Germans to do it?

I think its time to rethink what we do with Israel and their militaristic, genocidal attitude toward the rest of the world under the guise of being spiritually special...just as the terrorists think they are. Too much self righteous religion is a terrible thing.

Interesting article below:


Greorge Tamarin presented to 1,066 Israeli school children, ages 8-14, the following account of the battle of Jerico in the book of Joshua:

Joshua said to the people, "Shout; for the LORD has given you the city. And the city and all that is within it shall be devoted to the LORD for destruction…But all silver and gold, and vessels of bronze and iron, are sacred to the LORD; they shall go into the treasury of the LORD."…Then they utterly destroyed all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and asses, with the edge of the sword…And they burned the city with fire, and all within it; only the silver and gold, and the vessels of bronze and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.

The children's answers to the question "Do you think Joshua and the Israelites acted rightly or not?," were categorized as follows with these results:

approval 66%

partial approval or disapproval 8%

total disapproval 26%

The answers given by the children tended to be as straightforward as they were numerous (Tamarin, 1966):

In my opinion Joshua and the Sons of Israel acted well, and here are the reasons: God promised them this land, and gave them permission to conquer. If they would not have acted in this manner or killed anyone, then there would be the danger that the Sons of Israel would have assimilated among the "Goyim."
In my opinion Joshua was right when he did it, one reason being that God commanded him to exterminate the people so that the tribes of Israel will not be able to assimilate amongst them and learn their bad ways.
Joshua did good because the people who inhabited the land were of a different religion, and when Joshua killed them he wiped their religion from the earth.
Tamarin (1973) noted that:

"total disapproval" was accorded to all answers formally rejecting genocide, either on ethical or utilitarian grounds. This does not mean that all of these responses reveal non-discriminatory attitudes. For example, one girl criticized Joshua's act, stating that "the Sons of Israel learned many bad things from the Goyim." Another extremely racist response is that of a 10 year old girl disapproving the act, stating, "I think it is not good, since the Arabs are impure and if one enters an impure land one will also become impure and share their curse."

Other misgivings included (1966):

I think Joshua did not act well, as they could have spared the animals for themselves.
I think Joshua did not act well, as he should have left the property of Jericho; if he had not destroyed the property it would have belonged to the Israelites.
Another question, "Suppose that the Israeli Army conquers an Arab village in battle. Do you think it would be good or bad to act towards the inhabitants as Joshua did towards the people of Jericho?" Tamarin (1966) received such responses as these:

In my opinion this behavior was necessary, as the Arabs are our enemies always, and the Jews did not have a country, and it was necessary to behave like that towards the Arabs.
It would have been good to treat the Arabs as Joshua and his soldiers did, as they are Arabs; they hate and retaliate against us all the time, and if we exterminate them as Joshua did, they won't be able to show themselves as greater heroes than we.
I think it was good because we want our enemies to be conquered, and to widen our frontiers, and we would kill the Arabs as Joshua and the Israelites did.
Some respondents disapproved of Joshua's campaign but approved of similar acts if committed by Israeli soldiers. One girl disapproved of Joshua "because it is written in the Bible, 'don't kill'," but she approved of the conjectured Israeli Army action, stating "I think it would be good, as we want our enemies to fall into our hands, enlarge our frontiers, and kill the Arabs as Joshua did."

As a control group, Tamarin tested 168 children who were read Joshua 6:20-21 with "General Lin" substituted for Joshua and a "Chinese Kingdom 3000 years ago" substituted for Israel. General Lin got a 7% approval rating, with 18% giving partial approval or disapproval, and 75% disapproving totally.

Answer 9

this moronic question dose not even deserve a proper response.

Answer 10

No... But Canada, that's something to ponder.