Let's see, the Pro-Life response to this should be... that 'abortionists' don't allow the innocent babies to choose, so it's not a valid analogy.
Am I right? Do I get a prize? Did I capture the essence of the Thumper argument? (At least, those smart enough to attempt a logical rebuttal instead of telling you to "read the bible" or simply informing you that you're going to hell.)
To which I would answer, God doesn't offer us a choice, either. (For the sake of argument, I am assuming that the Thumper god is a real entity who behaves exactly as the biblical deity should; this doesn't mean I buy it for a second, fyi.)
God's "choice" to us mortals is to accept, without question, an absurdly unrealistic fairy-tale in which the results of repeatable experiments are false, while an ancient legend offers the only real insight into the nature of physical reality. Or to accept instead a body of overwhelming empirical evidence, from independent researchers from every nation on earth and including the brightest minds our species has yet produced.
Believe what is in front of your face, or believe what is implausible beyond your wildest imagining. Believe what the smartest, best-trained and most well-respected scientists repeatedly tell you, or believe what a handful of ethically-questionable clerics and their inbred, uneducated followers persistently cling to.
No one can choose to believe in a story that their brain tells them is false, any more than a fetus can choose whether or not to be born.
ps: If no one thinks to attack your analogy, or even realizes you're making one, then I over-estimated the opposition and you can just ignore this answer.
2006-12-18 04:32:18
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answered by abram.kelly 4
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God would not belong to any of guy's agency which contain "expert-existence". yet He does say and has the suitable to interrupt any people who he's wakeful of will attempt to kill His infants. If it sounds too scarey to clutter with God's infants and propose them harm, then comprehend this, it is scarey. psninety 4:21-23 21 They band jointly against the righteous and condemn the prospect loose to death. 22 in spite of the undeniable fact that the Lord has replace into my fort, and my God the rock in whom I take look after haven. 23 he will pay off them for their sins and harm them for their wickedness; the Lord our God will harm them. NIV a million Chron 17:7-10 8 I extremely have been with you everywhere you have long previous, and that i've got have been given decrease off all your enemies from in the past you. Now i will make your call like the names of the right grownup adult males of the earth. 9 and that i will grant a place for my human beings Israel and can desire to plant them so as that they are waiting to have a house of their very very own and now now no longer be disturbed. wicked human beings won't oppress them anymore, as they did on the beginning up up 10 and have finished ever via actuality the time I appointed leaders over my human beings Israel. i will additionally subdue all your enemies. NIV
2016-12-15 03:24:19
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answered by ? 4
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Our lives are blessed by His goodness all around us. Our lives are eternal. The "rules" to get to heaven are clear. Just ask for forgiveness. When God takes a life from us, they are only gone temporarily till we see them again. After all, even 85 years is measly, compared to eternity.
2006-12-17 20:00:22
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answered by out of the grey 4
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Why are so many people who do not understand the love and nature of God, so quick to blame God for everything.
If you have a hang nail or a bad hair day is it God's fault too?
Please stop and think about what we do every day on this planet to make the life span shorter or longer, perhaps we are to blame for the life span we have today and not God.
If you read the Bible you will have your questions answered and you will see the truth. It is not scary at all.
Ignorance is scary, truth is not...
Just think about it outside of your box for a moment...
2006-12-17 19:50:32
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answered by Cat 3
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This is not the real life. The real life is up there with God and that life is for eternity. DOn't take this world so seriously. Just be agood human. God creates everyone loves everyone. even the fetus. Now its up to the mother to love her child (fetus) as well.
2006-12-17 19:44:36
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answered by Anonymous
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To die is gain for us for then we will enter into the real life. He has always been there in my times of need. However He is not oblidged to come or work in the manner that you want but He does the things he wants and knows are best for you all the time.
2006-12-17 19:48:29
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answered by Gre2000 3
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The Life After Death
Mrs. S. asked some questions with reference to the conditions of existence in the next world, and the life after death; she said that having recently lost a very near relative, she had given much thought to this subject. Many thought that re-union with those we had loved, and who had passed on to the future life, would only take place after a long period of time had elapsed. She wished to know whether one would be re-united with those who had gone before immediately after death.
'Abdu'l-Bahá answered that this would depend upon the respective stations of the two. If both had the same degree of development, they would be re-united immediately after death. The questioner then said, how could this state of development be acquired? 'Abdu'l-Bahá replied, by unceasing effort, striving to do right, and to attain spiritual qualities.
The questioner remarked that many differing opinions were held as to the conditions of the future life. Some thought that all would have exactly the same perfections and virtues; that all would be equal and alike.
'Abdu'l-Bahá said there would be variety, and differing degrees of attainment, as in this world.
The question was then asked as to how it would be possible with no material bodies or environment to recognize different entities and characters, when all would be in the same conditions and on the same plane of existence. 75
'Abdu'l-Bahá said if several people look into a mirror at the same moment, they behold all the different personalities, their characteristics and movements; the glass of the mirror into which they look is one. In your mind you have a variety of thoughts, but all these thoughts are separate and distinct. Also you may perhaps have hundreds of friends; but when you call them before your memory you do not confuse them one with another: each one is separate and distinct, having their own individualities and characteristics.
Replying to another questioner, he said that when two people, husband and wife for instance, have been completely united in this life their souls being as one soul, then after one of them has passed away, this union of heart and soul would remain unbroken.
Spiritual Relationship
In the evening of September 28th, 'Abdu'l-Bahá was with a number of assembled guests.
He said all of you here are sisters. Bodily relationships may pass; even two sisters may be inimical to each other, but the spiritual relationship is eternal, and brings about mutual love and service.
Be always kind to everyone and a refuge for those who are without shelter.
Be daughters to those who are older than you.
Be sisters to those who are of your own age. 76
Be mothers to those who are younger than yourselves.
Be nurses to the sick, treasurers for the poor, and supply heavenly food to the hungry.
A Persian doctor from Qazvin said this was a great work of God that the East and the West had become so united, and we must always thank God that the Bahá'í cause had produced such great harmony and union between us. The result of this visit of 'Abdu'l-Bahá to the West would be very great. 77
(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 73)
2006-12-17 19:53:18
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answered by GypsyGr-ranny 4
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If God was pro-life, he would have intervened to stop over 100 million from being killed in His name.
2006-12-17 20:07:14
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answered by The professor 4
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Life force is not beholden
to human beings' notions
of what must be etc.
Human notions are sovereign to humans.
And they war over them constantly.
2006-12-17 19:46:09
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answered by Anonymous
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if you think that you only get one lifetime, then I agree, thats a pretty bizzare and silly thing.
but the fact is that reincarnation is how it works, NOT this one-shot nonsense.
Death is not the end, its only a change of state.
2006-12-17 19:46:57
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answered by Anonymous
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