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(1) God is everywhere.
(2) We haven't been everywhere to prove he's not there.
(3) Therefore, God exists

2006-12-17 16:47:50 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2006-12-17 16:49:23 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

No. Not any more than you can likewise prove that orange elephants do or don't exist.

Your statement (1) is presented as a fact. However, this would be one possible result of your conclusion being correct (which is not yet proved).

Statement (2) has NO connection or impact. It's merely saying that you haven't done what you need to do in order to make a decision.

Statement (3) begins "therefore" when there is NO basis for "therefore" anything.

This "logic" example wouldn't pass muster during the first WEEK of a logic class.

2006-12-17 16:53:01 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

No. Because if He doesn't exist for you in the here and now in this place then even if He is everywhere else He is not here at this moment for you and He does not exist for you at this time, then He is not everywhere is He?

If you are confused, just take a deep breath and read about the life of Padre Pio and ask yourself how those things could happen. That will keep you busy for awhile.

2006-12-17 17:06:29 · answer #3 · answered by tonks_op 7 · 0 0

1. Can't be proven without elaborating.
2. True, but we have been anywhere which is part of everywhere.
3. Not quite.

I suggest reading Thomas Aquinas's "Quinquae Viae" or "Five Ways" which are the 5 reasons through which we can know a god exists.

2006-12-17 16:51:58 · answer #4 · answered by gnighm 2 · 0 0

I don't mean to be rude but that's completely stupid:

->if God was everywhere, you could go anywhere and if you managed to prove he wasn't in one specific place then you would have proved that God is not everywhere.

->it's simple philosophy/logic: just because something cannot be disproved doesn't mean it's true. For example, you have an invisible cat on your head called Henry. You can't see/smell/taste/feel/hear him but he is nonetheless still there. You can't disproove him, and therefore, by by your logic, he is real.

2006-12-17 16:52:44 · answer #5 · answered by gay g 1 · 2 0

You are SO RIGHT! Except you didn't fill your argument with all kinds of sweeping, epic ideas that appeal to people, or threats of eternal punishment to those who don't believe, or promises of protection from a great power, or eternal salvation of the "soul", whatever that is. Without all those extra threats, promises and answers to very large questions your argument would probably never get very far with most people. If you want some really good reasons to not believe god exists then go here, meet some people and talk with them. http://www.the-brights.net/

2006-12-20 12:38:59 · answer #6 · answered by Brendan 2 · 0 0

GOD is fittingly described as omnipotent and omniscient—almighty and all-knowing. Yet, when attempting further to describe God’s greatness, some add a third term—omnipresent. They believe that God is present everywhere simultaneously.

While none of these descriptive terms are found in the Bible, the first two are clearly supported by Scriptural teachings. (Genesis 17:1; Hebrews 4:13; Revelation 11:17) God is indeed omnipotent, and he is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him. But is he omnipresent? Is God everywhere, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place?

Where Is God?

In several Bible verses, “the heavens” are mentioned as God’s “established place of dwelling.” (1 Kings 8:39, 43, 49; 2 Chronicles 6:33, 39) However, one Bible account describes the magnitude of Jehovah God with the following terms: “Will God truly dwell with mankind upon the earth? Look! Heaven, yes, the heaven of the heavens themselves, cannot contain you.”—2 Chronicles 6:18.

“God is a Spirit,” says the Bible. (John 4:24) Therefore, he resides in a spiritual realm independent of the physical universe. When the Bible refers to “the heavens” as God’s dwelling place, it is referring to the loftiness of the place where he resides in contrast with the material environment in which we reside. In any event, the Bible teaches that God’s abode is, indeed, clearly distinguished from the physical universe but is at the same time a very specific location.—Job 2:1-2.

God Is a Person

Jesus spoke about Jehovah’s dwelling place when he said to his disciples: “In the house of my father there are many abodes. . . . I am going my way to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2) Where did Jesus go? Eventually, he “entered . . . into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us.” (Hebrews 9:24) This account teaches us two important facts about Jehovah God. First, he has a literal place of dwelling, and second, he is a person, not simply an indefinable force that resides everywhere.

That is why Jesus taught his followers to pray this way: “Our Father in the heavens,” directing their prayers to a person, Jehovah, who is in a place, namely, the spiritual heavens. (Matthew 6:9; 12:50) This teaching was consistent with the way God’s people had been taught to pray for more than 1,500 years. The oldest writings inspired by God contain the following prayer: “Do look down from your holy dwelling, the heavens, and bless your people.”—Deuteronomy 26:15.

2006-12-17 16:53:16 · answer #7 · answered by Livin In Myrtle Beach SC 3 · 1 2

no, that proves nothing.
if he's everywhere he should be everywhere we've been, so even if we cannot be everywhere we would find him being where we are.
ur using typical circular logic.
LOW, nature lets anything that can survive, survive. nature "creates" nothing in a way like a god. besides, why does god need us? nature "needs" nothing, its a term referring to the collective existence of all living things. it's not a sentient entity that creates things it needs.

2006-12-17 17:32:52 · answer #8 · answered by implosion13 4 · 0 0

I'm a Christian and would say, that your evidence for God's existence is very lacking when you use these "statements" as a premise for evidence of God's existence. Try physics / science to prove it ... it's there, you will find it !!! This is only an exercise in dysfunctional religion with THAT as proof !!! Thanks for the allowing me input !!!

2006-12-17 16:57:21 · answer #9 · answered by guraqt2me 7 · 1 0

1) Water is off the coast of france
2) I haven't been off the coast of France to prove there is no water.
3) Therefore water MUST be there.
Unfortunately, it is circular logic, and you cannot disprove a negative.
Yet, I still believe that GOD exists, despite any evidence( or lack thereof)

2006-12-17 16:52:31 · answer #10 · answered by watcherd 4 · 1 1

You can just stop at point 1. If we accept that god is everywhere, then we accept that "God is" and therefore our conclusion already is met. Thing is we don't agree with premise one. It's called "Begging the Question."

Something like "If God Exists THEN God is Everywhere" might be more acceptable, but that doesn't lead you to your conclusion.

2006-12-17 16:54:07 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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