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In our everyday experience, just about everything seems to have a beginning. In fact, the laws of science show that even things which look the same through our lifetime, like the sun and other stars, are running down. The sun is using up its fuel at millions of tonnes each second—since, therefore, it cannot last forever, it had to have a beginning. The same can be shown to be true for the entire universe. So when Christians claim that the God of the Bible created the entire universe, some will ask what seems a logical question, namely ‘Where did God come from?’ The Bible makes it clear in many places that God is outside of time. He is eternal, with no beginning or end—He is infinite! He also knows all things, being infinitely intelligent.Is this logical? Can modern science allow for such a notion? And how could you recognize the evidence for an intelligent Creator?

2006-12-17 10:37:32 · 5 answers · asked by puertofrican 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

This was written by Ken Ham. Just wanted to hear everyones opinion.

2006-12-17 10:38:41 · update #1

5 answers

In as much as I was not around to see how everything came into being (and neither were you),I say, "I don't know ..... YET!" To assume that some god, my less than intellectual ancestors made up, instantaneously farted the universe into being, is absurd

2006-12-17 10:43:46 · answer #1 · answered by iknowtruthismine 7 · 1 0

I'm not sure why people use the "wind analogy"...It is clearly faulty...We cannot see wind but we sense it through our senses (there is evidence for the wind)....Plus there are many things no one has ever seen since they do not exist....
Also, science does not mandate a beginning to every thing. The Sun that we know was gases, energy, and heat before that.
Our concept of time is too immature to act as if we know time must have began or that something (anything) cold exist outside of it....

2006-12-17 18:50:57 · answer #2 · answered by Eleventy 6 · 0 0

no one has ever seen the wind, yet everyone has felt the effects of the wind, therefore the wind exists. GOD is like the wind. all one has to do is look at the glories and wonders in the Heavens and on the earth to see GOD'S Handiwork. yet, like the wind, GOD, HIMSELF remains invisible to all mortals five senses while living on this plane of existence. this description will not change the mind of a non - believer nor is it intended to do so. but for me this is sufficient.

2006-12-17 18:45:02 · answer #3 · answered by Marvin R 7 · 0 0

Through the air we breath. We can't see the air we breath or feel the wind that blows but the affects are there!

2006-12-17 18:42:41 · answer #4 · answered by Just So 6 · 0 1

All the deniers deny God, on account of the reason that God is not encircled by their intellect. And ___ all the believers believe in God, on account of the same reason that God is not encircled by their intellect. Therefore, the believers and the deniers, the both, do agree that God is not encircle-able by human intellect.

The believers do believe that God is Ever Sufficient for them and for their needs. And___ God not only, suffices them and their needs, rather, God guides them in every matter in every walk of life. By and by, a co-existing fact is notice-worthy that God remains Ever Sufficient for the deniers as well.

If God had been for the believers alone and God had not been for the deniers___ then everyone would have believed in God’s existence equally so as to meet their needs of life equally.


Rational thinking has collected a series of scientific about the universe whose result is highly thought-provoking____ which has been summarized in the following words:

“No material thing is capable to create it by itself”.

This result is based on such an authentic calculation that we can not find any room to criticize it in rational terms. Through irrational terms, of course, one can criticize it as much as he desires.

Strange is the fact that this calculation brings forth, detailed answers of all the questions, which arise, in human mind, about existence of God.

“No material thing is capable to create it by itself”

means that there is a Creator of all the things of universe.

1.Who is this Creator?
2.How like is this Creator?
3.Where is this Creator?

These are the questions to be answered in detail.

Each creature is identifiable within its particular creaturely limits and the creatures of the universe are countless. And___ they are all alike on the one side and different from each other on the other side. So, we come to the following three important attributes of their Creator, automatically:-

1.The Creator owns infinite knowledge & all-encompassing creativity.
2.Harmony, Balance, Style and System of Creation reveal that the Creator is the All-Alone Owner of the Nature & the Almightiness.
3.The Creator is Unseen Omnipotent and nothing is alike the Creator. And, the Creator can never be considered as a limited, conceivable and physically approachable thing.


Nothing is alike the Creator means that everything of this universe is a creaturely thing. And____ the word of “thing” itself determines the boundaries of a creature & encircles its material or immaterial existence. While the Creator of this infinite & inapprehensible universe___ is free from all sorts of creaturely limits. So, non of the reckoning, is there, which may declare the Creator as a thing. And____ to declare the Creator as a thing is totally an irrational declaration, equal to the denial of Creator.

Besides that, the Creator can be believed as Creator of everything, only in that case, when nothing should, predominantly, be alike the Creator. No other rational way is there, to believe the Creator as the Creator. We can not consider the Creator as a person or a thing or a creature and, at the same time, as a Creator of everything every person and every creature. Such an approach will be, altogether, an irrational approach, rather, an absurd approach.

A thing or a person, or a concept or a consideration, all in all; are in fact the limited pictures of our understanding. While every understandable thing is a limited and encircled thing. Which can never be considered as a creator of anything.

Appropriate way of belief in God is that, God should not be considered in terms of things as nothing of the whole series of things___ is alike God. That is why that God is termed as Super-natural and Super-physical. And, such a terminology is completely correct, as we can not determine that how-like is God. Nor we can say that such and such thing is alike God.

To pronounce God’s glory in proper terms, we should not say, “God is not a thing”. Instead, we should say, “Nothing is alike God”. Delicate difference of the both sentences is a particularly notice-worthy. If we say that:

“God is not a thing”

then, the intellect (which is accustomed to perceive things) will say that God is nothing and God is not existing. Whereas God is existing here and there everywhere. So, when we say that:

“Nothing is alike God”

then, it is automatically declared that God is the beyond of everything and God is not a thing. God is very much existing but God is not perceivable by human intellect.

To believe in God in rational terms, we should positively know that what is a thing. Such knowledge will enable us to know the Creator, with reference to God’s created things, conveniently.

Everything, according to the most modern knowledge, is perceived on account of its reality based organic order and composition. And____ the organic order and composition of a thing, are determined under some particular rules and regulations. That is why that a thing remains different from the other thing and it remains specific representative of it’s own kind. An apple remains apple___ a mango remains mango___ a flower remains flower___ and a thorn remains a thorn. And___ they are never exchanged with each other, at any stage of their development inspite of their atmospheric and biological similarity.

Here___ the intellect is highly amazed that how-like are these working rules and regulations, which do not let the things go beyond their organic limits. Wherefrom have these rules & regulations come including their regulative force, which remains always intact and is never decayed by the passage of time. Are these rules and regulations alive? Of course, they are alive, as it is evident from their creative working. But who has given them such a strange & marvelous life? These are the questions, entailing in certain other questions, for which, human intellect has no answer at all.

The only and the alone answer in this regard is that, some Ordainer of these rules & regulations is definitely alive and existing. Who is the All-Alone Creator of everything including it’s order and composition or its characteristics. But rest assured that even the commonplace creature, is not encompass-able by human intellect in real terms. So, how the Creator can be encompassed by the human intellect.

Presence of countless creatures with their living characteristics, however, makes us understand that the Creature is very much existing and present, everywhere, quiet close to the creatures. But the Creator is not checked by any border or limit or by some organism, as every organism, itself, is a sort of limitation. So, the Creator is the Absolute & the Infinite and nothing is alike the Creator. And nothing can be ever alike the Creator as everything is limited by certain organism. Whereas the Creator is the Ordainer of every organism. The Creator is not an organism at all.

Existence of the universe and it’s marvelous chain of complexed systems___ working in highly delicate fractions and frequencies___ are the ever-sounding witnesses of the existence of their Creator. Who is existing everywhere but is not an object of existence like a thing. As nothing of the existing or non-existing things can be alike the Creator. So, men, of intellect should positively pay heed, to the revealed information___ coming from the beyond of this universe.

The latest scientific result that:

“No material thing is capable to create it by itself”

is very much harmonized with the revealed truth that

“Nothing is alike the Creator (God)”

The former is not only harmonized with the latter, rather, it is rationally leading every modern information and scientific calculation of the day, to its actual and the ultimate destination. The truth springs out automatically when we join these two sentences together.

So, whenever we say that:
“No material thing is capable to create it by itself”,

then, it will be automatically decided that there is some Creator of everything. Likewise whenever we say that:
“Nothing is alike the Creator”,
then, it will be also automatically decided, that the Creator is free from every sort of organism and the Creator is Absolute and Infinite, in absolute & infinite terms as the Creator is Holy.

In presence of this vast and inapprehensible universe, we can not deny the presence of it’s Creator. Who is not encompass-able by human intellect, as the Creator is the Super-natural and the Super-physical. So we can not declare the created things as God.

If everything had been God and God had been everything, then, the revealed verdict would have not been like that:
“Nothing is alike the Creator (God)”.

Therefore, none of the things of universe, material or immaterial, solid or liquid, bright or dark, open or hidden, physical or metaphysical, partial or the whole, including the life and death, and the beginning and the end and so on____ can be declared as God or image of God___ as the creature can never be alike God.

In the other words, we cannot make any image or imagination of God. So those___ who worship any image or imagination of God____ they do not worship God___ instead they worship an idol___ made by their own intellect.

To make some image or imagination of God, is not possible and permissible on account of the fact and the verdict that “nothing is alike god”. No soil, no stone, no wood and no metal can ever be or become alike God. None of these things can give us any idea or information, about God. We can not take the idols and images___ even as some signs or signals____ pointing to God. Such an act will be the misuse of intellect and a tremendous injustice. Intellect is ordained to believe the Unseen God in the light of the testimony of heart and that is the faith in reality.

No painter can paint any image of God and no philosopher can develop any imagination of God. That is why that to deal with the most important matter of the belief in God____ Prophets were sent by God. If they had not come then we would have been lead astray____ definitely____ on account of our material thinking.

Brain can not encompass the Creator, even, after consumption of its whole potential.

Albert Einstein has declared the universe as inapprehensible on account of its infinity. As such, he has pointed out the limits of the brain.

We can utter the word of God, Eishwar, Jehovah or Allah, as a name of the Creator. But we can not treat it, as the name, which can encompass the real existence of Creator.

Space____ is the name of a thing, which declares the space as a thing. It is the name of such a thing, which encircles the material objects but itself is like an immaterial state. In the same way God is a name but it does not declare God as a thing. And____ it is a specific name for the Creator of everything. The Creator is not a thing and nothing is alike the Creator.

Since inception of the human life and the battle of survival on the globe___ a strange human performance has always been in progress. And___ that is the preaching enterprise of the Prophets among their fellow-men. And___ their education has always been regarded as Divine Education.

If we had been a remote controlled creature of other planets. Or___ we had been a composite creature of various gods. Then the Prophets must have told us about such planets and gods including their commandments. But no such news has ever been given by the Prophets___ throughout the human history. Instead, they have always talked about the One Alone God and God’s Commandments alone. And___ they have also told us that we have been created and sent to this earth by the same One Alone God.

Scientific research tells us that our body is made of soil. The soil___ brought to the earth by various meteors from millions of planets. The same soil is now the body of humans and animals on the earth and that is the biological base of life.

Science is busy in biological research but it is silent about self and spirit of the creatures.

Majority of the ignorant masses, is of the view that science is a religion-refuting branch of knowledge but that is not correct. Such a notion on their part is on account of their ever-increasing interest in material gains. They have no time to study the science of realities or the science of religion or even their own souls and selves. So they can not apprehend the world of actual realities.

Such people are of the view that religion is an ancient fossil and that is all. These people do not know that the scientists have succeeded in believing the Lord___ the One Alone God. Not through some external sources but through their own research. Whereby they have reasonably realized that religion is not an ancient fossil. Instead, it is the most moderate and scientific code of life brought forth by our Creator___ the One Alone God. Famous scientist Albert Einstein admits the existence of One Alone God in the following words:

“That is an infinite and the Most Sublime power and cause whose effects are seen everywhere in this inapprehensible universe”

(Thesis: in confirmation of Einstein’s Creative Power by Marline Buxs Kradar)

Albert Einstein has hinted here upon the One Alone God. He has not hinted here upon two or three gods or two or three causes. By declaring the universe as inapprehensible, he is declaring that the Creator of universe, is also, inapprehensible. Thus he has positively confirmed the reality of Monotheism and discarded the baseless notions of Henotheism and polytheism.

Albert Mc Combus Vanchester (the biologist) says in this thesis: “Science has strengthened my belief”:-

“Science removes the polytheistic notions___ mingled with our Monotheistic religious beliefs___ by those self-evident realities which can be confirmed by us through the observable testimonies”.
“Whenever a person thinks about the motion____ a thought of the motion-setter comes in his mind automatically”
(Andrew Connde)

God is really existing! Quest of a hundred percent convincing argument in support of this claim, is a matter of specific nature. Which is totally dependent upon one’s own research and experience.

If you will try to understand the Faith, in accordance with it’s prescribed conditions and sources. Then sooner or later, you will come to the enlightening nature and truthfulness of the claim, definitely.

And___ when you will become aware of particular nature of the link between God-n-man including its prescribed conditions to maintain it. And___ when you will become wholeheartedly busy in positive accomplishment of the prescribed conditions. Then, as a result of your sincerity___ such a link between God-n-man will develop___ that no room will remain vacant for any type of doubt or suspicion. And___ faith in God will elevate you up to such an extent that you will feel and realize the Lord____ quiet near and familiar to you. And___ such a soothing satisfaction will prevail all-around you which is meant for the chosen-ones alone.


Belief and Non-Belief of GOD
The One and Alone Holy GOD

Even the attributes of GOD are not GOD, such as knowledge of GOD or power of GOD. GOD created all, about which one can think and which mortal makes with thought even that can never be considered as GOD.
Ideas of a mortal are just like the hands of mortal and with such hands mortal cannot touch the creator of thoughts.
Materials of the thought are all created elements and GOD is not made of elements. The birds of thought can never fly over GOD, but they fly over God’s Kingdom only. GOD is Holier than that because GOD is not man-thought or man made. GOD created the mortal and mortal cannot create even a seed. GOD can never be encircled or compassed even with the belief of infinity, because GOD is absolute in existence, beyond lies and truth. GOD is a fact in reality believed or not. All minds are cosmic and all brains are universal with the power of consciousness.
Eyes see more than the ears that hear and all minds think more than the eyes that see. And man makes not the real but the images only. And images keep on changing being images. And things resembles not with GOD. GOD is untouched, unseen, and unfelt. GOD is just believed or un-believed and un-belief of GOD is another belief that is again directly concerned to GOD. And belief is an answered satisfaction of the believers questions concerned with existence. A non-believer cannot see what a believer can see. Believer can see GOD but not with the eyes and can hear GOD but not with ears, but with the heart who believes. Seeing is realizing and realizing is seeing GOD, not more than belief one can have as a proof of one’s own being. Simply if we exist GOD exist.

2006-12-18 03:38:33 · answer #5 · answered by ibn adam 4 · 0 0

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