Is it truth in science or lies in science class?

Question

The "Truth in science" organisation has been circulating creationist leaflets and other material to schools. As creationism is supported by absolutely no evidence at all and Darwinian evolution by Natural Selection is a proven scientific fact we must come to the conclude that the "truth in science" organisation has nothing to do with truth or science and more to do with indoctrinating children into believe in that a Bronze Age myth is scientifically supported fact. Say no to jesus say yes to the real truth behind real science.

Answer 1

Sorry - it is a 'proven scientific fact' that evolution exists. There is tons of evidence. One in the eye for the Intelligent design brigade is the common mudfish which has evolved to swim flat on the floor of the river. It resolved the problem of its eye facing the floor by evolving and twisting the useless eye to the other side of its face. If God actually designed it that way then he flunked art school. Remember, the word 'truth' and 'faith' cannot belong together.

Answer 2

What is a theory?

The confusion and possible ambiguity of this word is fueled by the fact that it has two very distinct definitions, both opposite to each other, and yet both valid. They are used in two different contexts.

In the dictionary you will find, among others, these two meanings of the word theory:

DEFINITION - A
A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

DEFINITION - B
An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Definition A applies to the "theory of evolution" because is a theory that explains without contradiction observed phenomena, is repeatedly tested, it produces the same results each time, and predicts with certainty future results. For example, it predicts with certainty that you will not find more complex living organisms appearing BEFORE simple living organisms. This simple fact is indisputable. It's the same as saying the sun is hot.
When creationists bring forth evidence that the theory does not describe a true fact, that there are examples of complexity coming BEFORE simplicity in biology, the theory of evolution will be considered invalid. The same will apply when someone will show evidence that the sun is just a reflection of light (like the moon), and it is really cold. In the meantime, evolution is equally true as the hot sun.

Definition - B applies to any unsubstantiated assumption that may come to mind. This is where one is free to come up with any explanation for anything. Do I have the revelation in the night that over the clouds some angels are watching us and protecting us? Well, that's a theory. It explains why I decided to stay away from drugs, alcohol, or anything that might harm me. Can I give a shred of evidence that my theory adheres to reality? Not a chance - at least so far as today. I'll change my mind tomorrow, if there is such evidence. Am I free to believe WITHOUT evidence? Yes, that is faith.

Answer 3

First of all that is not true, although I don't necessarily believe in the creationist view as it is presented. Darwinism is only a theory, over the time people "found" many skeletons e.t.c, but latter when they were found to be fake the media didn't report them, hmm...I wonder why.

If we analyze then Darwinism can not be proven, and just because someone throws some power words around or calls it a fact or makes statements that it is proved does not make it proven. Many science teachers themselves don't really understand the theory themselves but blindly believe it because obviously how can Darwinism theory be wrong?

As for Islam there are many theories about the creation of Human beings and living things, and even evolution will not go against the doctrine of Islam, because in the quran there is a verse that mentions that we created you in stages, some take it as evolution. I don't personally believe this explanation because evolution it self is a not a sound argument at least not in the current form. Many scientists also accept that and some know it doesn't all fit but its always hard to go against the popular belief, which in the scintific community is darwanism.

Answer 4

I never heard of this organization. That is really pathetic. How ignorant is it to deny proven fact that is supported by physical evidence that can be seen and touched?

I asked a question a couple of days ago to see what people would say about the age of the earth. I was amazed at some of the answers. These people are so brainwashed that they are unable to even open their mind up enough to accept proven facts.

Why must evolution necessarily mean that God did not create Adam and Eve? Obviously there were people already here on this planet. Cain left Eden and went to Nod where he found a wife. Genesis, itself proves that there were other people around.

Answer 5

That is a good question, Science is just that "A Science" - 'proof'...I believe there is a God and after-life, but when we disprove the bible through facts, things become very confusing for me and I am sure I'm not the only one. All we can do is have faith.That's all I can say about that subject.
I think the Bible may have been written in part on guess and not facts and 'fork lore' so to speak, to give us something as a guide. If you read the Bible, some things seem to be so wrong, like incest to carry on the family name, eye for an eye, do unto others, etc.

Answer 6

Darwinian Evolution is not science. There is no evidence for it. As for the idea of survival of the fittest, that is true, but that has nothing to do with evolution.

Most people have heard of the two varieties of moths in England; some were black while others were white. Before the Industrial Revolution the white ones predominated. When coal began darkening the trees and wall of buildings, the white variety stood out, and became more vulnerable to birds. When oil replaced coal, there was less soot on trees and wall, so the white variety made a come back.

This is an example of survival of the fittest. The moths didn't evolve from white to black and back to white again. There is NO mechanism for a species to evolve into another. Each species has set parameters that it cannot exceed. This has been known for centuries. People have been breeding dogs, horses, and cattle. They have produced varieties of vegetables and fruits.

I agree that the creationists can't point to science to prove their claim, but neither can the evolutionists. The origin of life is outside the realm of science. There is NO scientific explanation. Nobody witnessed, it can't be repeated, it is not falsifiable. It is just another crack pot theory.

Answer 7

Darwin evolution by natural selection is a proven scientific fact. I don't think so. Were you there 10,000 years ago or as they like to say it millions and billions of years ago to determine the origin of the species??? Environment has too much to do with this natural selection theory. The best gene from the fittest person or animal. Sounds like something Hitler wanted from Darwin.

Evolution and its changing, transforming species evolving from one kind to another kind has never been proven true. And lie after lie has been produced, written and put into museums. Pilt down man lie. Nebraska man lie. Lucy lie. And many other lies.
If the scientist couldn't find the evidence, he produced a lie. The poster of monkey walking into a man - nothing but a lie.

DNA found these false, untruths to be nothing but made up lies by scientists. The intellectual cannot say, "I was wrong." They prefer to lie.

Answer 8

I must agree with Barkley primarily, though as someone else said, in science it is theory that drives the information accepted. It could be changed if new evidence is found. So it is taught with the precaution that it is only theory.
The Truth (Chucking up my tea) in Science organization is backed by dogma going back to the dark ages.
We can say yes to Jesus, but NO to prats who have no sense of progress in knowledge.
That's my tuppence worth...
--Charles "That Cheeky Lad" Wishing everyone A Wickedly Happy Christmas! And yes, those who aren't into religion but like Christmas included....

Answer 9

As an atheist, I think the attack on christianity is uncalled for. However, the organisation "Truth in Science" is obviously a fundie group. They deserve all the criticism you can throw at them. They are nothing but a group of ignorant fools, who want to brainwash children into their version of religion, by using lies and half truths.

Answer 10

All science is really a current best guess based on available observable facts.

If facts emerge that contradict a scientific fact then that current best guess is thrown out and a new one developed. Evolution is merely the current best guess.

Just so you know the best guess of Newtons Laws safely saw man reach the moon.