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I thought about the hundreds of thousands of innocent people who suffered unspeakable brutality and death by the Nazis. The great majority of the victims lived righteous lives, loved God, and kept the commandments, and taught their children likewise.

Then I considered a hypothetical Nazi, a former deathcamp employee, who, after the war, said to himself: "Times have changed; I can't kill any more Jews, perhaps I should repent."

Maybe he comes to America and in a Baptist church he kneels at the altar and asks Jesus Christ into his heart. He convinces others, perhaps even himself, that his repentence is genuine; never mind he has the blood of thousands on his hands. Perhaps his conversion is a good practical move as well.

He dies and goes to Heaven, and is met by Jesus' outstretched arms.

Those people who had suffered and died at his hands are in Hell, torment worse than anything on earth. They will suffer the torment of Hell forever; their God was not Jesus.

2006-12-17 04:20:54 · 11 answers · asked by 2.71828182845904 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Any Baptists out there, is there one of you who has even an inkling how absurd and evil your view of God is?

2006-12-17 04:22:07 · update #1

11 answers

Well, a perpetual heaven or hell for anything that happens on earth seems silly just on the surface of it. You can take comfort in the fact that there is no 'critical mass of believers' that turns a belief into fact.

2006-12-17 04:30:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

according to Christians it's not about being good, it's not about applying what you know, it's not about living pure and righteous with a kind heart - it's about accepting jesus as your lord and savior and you are automatically going to heaven.

In fact their doctrine is pretty much an creation of Martin Luther/St. Augustine, who created a political tool. Anyways Martin luther defines their doctrine,

"Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides... No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day." ('Let Your Sins Be Strong, from 'The Wittenberg Project;' 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther's Saemmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99, 1 Aug. 1521.)

"Those pious souls who do good to gain the Kingdom of Heaven not only will never succeed, but they must even be reckoned among the impious; and it is more important to guard them against good works than against sin." (Wittenberg, VI, 160, quoted by O'Hare, in 'The Facts About Luther, TAN Books, 1987, p. 122.)

Now of course this isn't how it is, but let them think so and make their whole way look suspect to all the people that can see it for what it is, a lie which constrains people to a ignorant ideology that is so removed from reality. Their way is one that is an insurance trap that leads nowhere.

2006-12-17 04:47:33 · answer #2 · answered by Automaton 5 · 0 0

Scripture definitively states that Jesus "descended into Hell" and on the third day rose again.

Whaddaya think He went there for, anyway? Sightseeing?

Like Heaven, Hell is in eternity. Therefore everyone who ever went there, or will be going there from our point of view, was from eternity's stance, already there when Jesus showed up. He stands before the gate, beckoning and everyone there has the choice of following Him.

Don't worry about the non-Christians or even the atheists. In the end, the God who so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son as a ransom for us all is hardly likely to be the kind of S.O.B. who'll leave good folk in Hell just to prove He can.

Jonathan Edwards' concept of God is as false as if he were describing Baal! Sadly, there are still a lot of deluded, nasty types who still promulgate this heresy.

The only types who get stuck in Hell are those who say "NO!" to Christ even when confronted with Hell itself. They don't WANT to be with God and so, He allows their free-will choice to stick. That being the case, where else are they supposed to go? Hell is where God most ISN'T. Presumably these types prefer it to anywhere that God mostly IS. Don't waste your pity on them. They chose their fate. God damns NO ONE! You can only damn yourself by refusing Christ even at the last extremity when you KNOW the alternative because you're staring it in the face.

2006-12-17 04:34:05 · answer #3 · answered by Granny Annie 6 · 0 2

The Great Creator is the only one wise enough to judge whether a person goes to heaven or hell.

2006-12-17 04:24:40 · answer #4 · answered by Rev. Two Bears 6 · 0 0

I think who will go to Heaven is who blieves & prey to God and follow the Prophet's message
and I bileve all Prophet's message are the same "Mohammed,Mosus,Juses or other"

I Love all of them

otherwise to hell

2006-12-17 04:35:40 · answer #5 · answered by horseman030 1 · 1 0

well according to the majority of christians they are the only ones going to heaven which basically means that more people will be going to hell which is why i'm agnostic enough said

2006-12-17 04:41:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Those that except Jesus go to Heaven, an those that don't except Jesus send their selves to hell.

2006-12-17 07:07:14 · answer #7 · answered by REV MCD 2 · 0 0

Catholics who receive absolution for their sins from a priest before they die go to heaven. Everyone else not so much.

2006-12-17 04:28:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

this is a prime example of the inconsistencies of Christianity, its karma that decides your future not a belief in or judgment by an unrealized deity

2006-12-17 04:28:38 · answer #9 · answered by gasp 4 · 1 0

People who truely love God, do believe that Jesus is Lord, becuase he too, is God. If one does not belive that Jesus is Lord, then they do not truely honor God, or believe He is who He says He is. Jesus is God, in human form.

2006-12-17 04:24:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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