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Question

You wrote that the Christians and the Jews jettisoned the bad teachings of their holy books and now their books are sanitized. Actually they haven’t. Their holy books still contain a lot of nonsense. However what they did is they decided that those so-called holy books are not the textual words of God but rather written by men who were inspired by God. This makes a world of difference, because it allows them not to take what is obviously outrageous too seriously. There is always an element of human error. That is why they have become tolerant. But unfortunately this possibility does not exist with the Quran. Quran claims to be the verbatim word of Islam’s deity, Allah and therefore no alteration is possible.

Also the NT does not have much violence. It is actually a book that teaches non-violence. The OT contains many stories of violence perpetrated by Moses and Joshua. But those are stories. Apart from the fact that these personages are more mythological than real and what is attr

attributed to them could well be exaggerations, those mandates to kill the non-Jews were given only to those “historic” figures and are not for all times. The Jews are not required to wage war against the non-Jews and convert the world into a Jewish world. Quran on the other hand, contains many verses that instruct its followers to be harsh and ruthless with the non-believers. While there is a Chapter in the Quran called “Spoils of War”, the New Testament asks those who preach the Christianity to dust off the dirt from their shoes when they leave a town where they went to preach.

You asked what it takes for me to come back. My question is why come back? What is in Islam that we should keep it at all costs? If Muhammad was an impostor and a criminal why keep alive his legacy and pay respect to him? Furthermore, to change the Quran and make it a non-offending book you have to change all of it. Then it would be a completely different book! So why call it Quran? Then again why you

and I should follow a book written by humans whose understanding could be as flawed as ours?

The point is that Muhammad was no messenger. He was a narcissist liar who used religion as a tool to fool people and dominate them in his reveries of grandiosity and conquest. His life shows that he was a pervert man. He was not a spiritual man but an evil man with lots of lies. He could convince the ignorant Arabs of the 7th century to wage war for him, attack merchant caravans, kill the innocent people and take their belonging and family as booty. Those idiots thought that the fact that he is wining is because he is from God. It did not occur to them that he is winning because he is ruthless and has no conscience.

Instead of trying to make Islam survive at any cost, I ask you to abandon this cult as soon as you can. Muhammad lied and Allah is no God. If there is a God who made this Universe, it is not Allah. The sooner we accept this inevitable fact, the sooner we will recover from

from our misery, barbarity and backwardness.
Best wishes



Ali Sina

quotes all from the OT.

Answer 1

I think you have been brainwashed. First the words are supposed to be from some angel, not God, and secondly, Mohammed who wassupposed to have dictated them was a street thug. All it is , is just another way to keep his followers in line. God would never have said to do some of the things the quran says for you to do.

Answer 2

Right.......... Please, before you claim that the Old Testament and the New Testament, written by man, are flawed, understand that the Qu'ran was also written by man, and it has, over the process of time been misinterpreted badly by SOME of the followers of Islam. There are things in the modern day Islamic world that the Qu'ran does not even speak of, just like there are things in modern day Christianity that the Bible does not speak of.

Man has written these books, by the inspiration of God. The books are good, they are for different people, and they unfortunately imply different things to different people as is logical.

Answer 3

Actually there are a handful of Evangelicals who consider the "Holy Bible" (that particular version) to be the unabridged word of God.

Whether it's the Bible, the Torah, or the Quran, we should move beyond these childish myths.

Answer 4

Yeh I agree with you. But the thing is, Allah and the christian God were the same God. Religion is stupid. Thats all I got to say 'bout that.

Answer 5

Really because I have heard people say that the bible is the word of God........today and on this forum as a matter of fact.

II Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, or thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shall not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shall thou spare, neither shall thou conceal him: But thou shall surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shall stone him with stones, that he die; because he has sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

Isaiah 14:21
Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

There are many Muslims that are moderates just as the are many moderate Christians and Jews. That doesn't change the fact that fanatics use the religious texts to justify their actions. You are wanting people to overlook the fanatics that claim your religion while condeming another religion for those same types of extremists