is this why they are so vexed? religion as I said is a business based on people's need to believe. they make money like any other business. god is their sales pitch. don't blame that on god.
the funny thing is that god doesn't require belief, because god is.
2006-12-16 01:58:03 · 14 answers · asked by dumb dumb 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
zeus and so on are further evidence that you confuse god and religion. thanks for illustrating my point.
new question: did I expose angry atheists?
2006-12-16 02:12:03 · update #1
who cares...you suck!
2006-12-16 02:39:30 · answer #1 · answered by violet83 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In some instances they do. Many may deny it, but when push comes to shove you see they came from a religious background and base their denial simply on that background.
Some rely on the semi-organized "atheist" religion with their own prophets. Making it much like a Buddhist sect with prophets, morals, but no diety.
Some rely on science but fail to grasp that sciences has as many paradoxes as the Bible. For example, Einstein has shown that Newton's "laws" don't apply in certain relativistic situations ore are applied differently, hence they are not absolute laws.
Science can also not explain where everything comes from. They simply say the Mass of the Universe has always existed. That's sounds awfully spiritual!
Something that is "forever!"
That that is and will always be, except it changes form over time.
People also don't understand "Randomism" which is the basis behind atheism and science.
When all is said and done, Randomism is just has hard to explain and comprehend or justify as a diety.
My simplified explaination, which is certainly a farce, but it does make you realize what Randomism is about, is that a group of monkies shake a box full of parts from Radio Shack and after 100 billion years make a fully working X-box just by spilling it out to the ground.
Einstein says, God doesn't play dice. Which is where I got my example from.
Randomists say the universe is a cosmic casino and it shot lucky 7s and we appeared magically.
Creationists say there is something greater than us and it created us intentionally.
Radomists say we are parentless or have a cold, inorganic chemical universe as parents. Religious say we have a parent that wanted us.
Also, a lot of people have a big problem being the ANT looking up at the HUMAN.
It's much easier to be in a HUMAN to HUMAN universe. Much less threatening.
Atheists always ask how the religious would feel if space aliens arrived. I wonder how THEY would feel, because that Ant and the Human would catch up with them too!
2006-12-16 02:49:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
In as much as I was not around to see how everything came into being (and neither were you),I say, "I don't know ..... YET!" To assume that some god, my less than intellectual ancestors made up, instantaneously farted the universe into being, is absurd
A-T-H-E-I-S-M (spelled correctly) is not something that is stumbled on in the dark or in a blinding flash. To achieve rationality is a developmental process that has to overcome the mindless programming that has been shoved at you since childhood. I'm amazed that I started asking the right questions when I was eleven and even more amazed that I was able to take the "because" answers of religion with a jaundiced eye at such a young age. Still it took three more years before I called myself an agnostic and three hard years more before being able to call myself an Atheist. Happy about it? Sometimes I envy delusionalists who think they are going to end up in some cosmic Disneyland when they die, instead of the void on non-existence, but in the end, I'm happy I do not live in the delusional haze that seems to keep them anesthetized to reality.
2006-12-16 02:09:46 · answer #3 · answered by iknowtruthismine 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As an atheists I would never blame anything on god, since I don't believe he exists.
As for god not requiring belief because he is, I don't know how anyone intelligent enough to operate a keyboard could think that makes sense. Obviously your claim that 'god is' is based on your belief in god.
2006-12-16 02:08:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Who's vexed? Sure, organized religion has some problems, but that is not necessarily what makes people atheist. What makes people atheist is the lack of evidence for the existence of God.
2006-12-16 02:02:30 · answer #5 · answered by Nicole B 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
'God does not require belief because god is. '
Whether you twisted your noodle into those knots or whether it was twisted for you, I'm not sure, but let's just forget the rest of that ramble and focus on the above statement.
So you are basically saying that god does not require to be believed in, because he exists regardless?
1st of all I could say: 'FSM does not require belief because FSM is.' 'Allah does not require belief because allah is.' 'Zeus does not require belief, because Zeus is.'...and so on.
It is not really a very valid argument...at all. You are pretty much saying You don't have to believe in god for him to exist, because he exists regardless, and belief requires the use of supporting evidence which is something god does not have. Well isn't that convenient for god?
So I can translate that into: He does not have to be defined as in existance the same way everything else does because you say so.
Sorry, doesn't work for me. Nice try.
2006-12-16 02:07:44 · answer #6 · answered by Poo 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I find that a lot of persons of faith will confuse god with religion, thus marginalizing religions such as Buddhism and various Pagan beliefs as not being religions based upon the absence of a prominent deity. Religion, Spirituality and God are very different things and can certainly exist independently of one another.
2006-12-16 02:01:53 · answer #7 · answered by smedrik 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
i'm no longer an atheist or theist, yet i comprehend precisely what you're dealing with. the significant element right here is to hit upon something that makes you happy. i comprehend what i believe is probable incorrect or fallacious in some way, even though it makes me sense slightly greater effective interior to think of it. bear in suggestions, no one has the right answer right here, regardless of you opt for to believe is in simple terms as ideal as everyone else's.
2016-10-05 09:32:55 · answer #8 · answered by bungay 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe in religion, there's evidence: churches, money grubbing, hypocricy, fear mongering.
There is no god. I haven't confused anything.
2006-12-16 02:04:22 · answer #9 · answered by hot carl sagan: ninja for hire 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
religion is a set of beliefs NOT a money making scheme...most ministers are good decent converted men of God and they have stomachs too you know and bills..YOU MAKE ALOT of assumptions. God has called many ppl directly and it wasnt even their idea!!!!
2006-12-16 02:01:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Did you confuse your pretensions of intellect with genuine intellect? Your sophistry doesn't convince me that you are anything other than intellectual plankton.
2006-12-16 02:03:18 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋