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2006-12-15 23:42:12 · 2 answers · asked by smrtsmyl 1 in Science & Mathematics Medicine

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it depends on a ferw things, where do you live for example i live in london and here if you have not got good results in school or did not finish school then you must do a years access course first. but in general the uni time is the same everywhere 3 years.
the first year is all uni the second and third is 6 weeks uni 6 weeks in a hospital or in the district. i hope ive been helpful. xx

2006-12-15 23:52:54 · answer #1 · answered by dee 3 · 0 0

It takes a lot of useless work that never amounts to much and ultimately never gets you into anything that is worth the effort... I know that is a terribly biased expression of my own personal frustration but I have not gotten anything from either my Bachelors degree in Nursing or my Masters degree in Nursing and I cannot figure what a doctorate in Nursing would do for the world or me. When I was studying for my masters, I had to take a course in Nursing Theory. While doing so I had to present on a modern Nursing theory. I chose The Theory of Human Becoming By Rosemarie Rizzo Parse, who is professor and Niehoff Chair at Loyola University Chicago. I was amazed. What was this woman smoking when she wrote this gibberish? I presented it to my wife who is herself an academic and covers our walls with her diplomas. She watched one video on the theory and had to watch it again just to make sure she had not missed what Rosemarie was getting at. We both looked at each other in awe
of the absolute "drunken garble" that this woman was spouting. I mean was she eating fermented ricotta cheese when she came up with one? The great cartoonist of modern day irony is Gary Larson, the creator of The Far Side. He was married to a woman who had a Master's in Nursing and he did a cartoon where a man is standing in a large library he looks totally confused and exasperated. in the background was a desk with a devil sitting behind it. Only looking at the small, but readable titles on the books gave the whole scenario away. The tile of the cartoon was "Hell's Library" The titles of each of the books on the shelf near the man was Nursing Theory, More Nursing Theory, The Theory of Nursing Theory, Even More Nursing Theory. I rest my case. Nursing was presented as a profession from day one of my classes. A profession was defined as having 4 components: (1) A body of knowledge (2) Research published in a peer reviewed Journal (3) a prescribed criteria for credentialing and licensing its members (4) and finally a independent authority to practice its tenets. Nursing has all of these but the last one, and therefore is not a true profession. Seriously, try to be a totally independent practitioner and see how far you get in your career. I had read of effort to start a Doctorate in Nursing at my original school. They finally had to stop it because they were awarding an ND degree. Can you see a Nurse who has not been trained even as a Nurse Practitioner presenting herself as an ND. She would constantly have to admit that she was an ND and not an MD. There is a lot Nursing has to offer the world. Florence Nightingale proved that at the Crimea in 1854, but even she would have to clear some of the things she was doing then with a physician if she wanted to do them today. The education of Nursing professionals today is a "Bad Dream" I went into the field after graduating with a BSN using Henderson's Theory of Nursing. It was a great practical theory. But the dean of my College was a nutcase who was well ahead of her time. She is dead now and I hope she now realizes how many of us she sent into the field totally unprepared to be nurses. I had to learn to be a real floor nurse on my first job from an LPN in 2 weeks. When I went to my Nurse Practitioner program I met a woman who already had her Masters, but she was now going for her Advanced Registered Nurse Practitioner certification. She took the first two weeks of the first two classes, which were Nursing Theory and Culture in Nursing Practice. She walked out and went into the local Physician's Assistant Program. I would have done the same if I had the time and the money to do so because by the end of my NP program I had to ask what am I expected to do as a Nurse Practitioner. When I went to one of the only Instructors there with a head on her shoulders that was not in the
clouds, I asked her what am I supposed to tell a physician when I am looking for a job most of them work under the Medical model and all my course work has been in the Nursing model. They are interested in ICD codes and diagnosis, which we have had noting presented. She had to admit that there are about 20% of the Nurses who graduate with an NP certification never practice as an NP. Could you imagine that happening with Physicians? It took me almost 5 years to work my way into a real NP position and many days of stark terror thinking I was doing something I
had never really been trained for properly. You may be one of those egghead nurses who like to do research but I have constantly asked nurses I have worked with and talked with over the 34 years I have been in this field. " Has nursing theory or nursing research ever changed anything that you have done as a nurse? I swear to a man, none of them has ever answered in the affirmative. You go and do what you must do, but if you ever teach please keep my little entreaty in mind.

2006-12-16 12:33:21 · answer #2 · answered by arnp4u 3 · 0 0

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