2006-12-15 21:15:50 · 20 answers · asked by wd20x2 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
In the original text on the scrolls...
The 'Devil' as you call him is actually 'Lucifer' and that is NOT the same thing.. In the original wording he is known as the 'Adversary' what we call now a 'Prosecutor'.
It was Lucifer's role to present trials and tests to men of 'faith' in order to determine if they truly had 'enough faith'. These 'tests' had to be ordered by God and observed by both God and the 'Adversary'.
Later Christian Churches could not come to grips mentally with this image and so changed the translation of both the text and the way in which this event played out. They had to or their concept of an all-loving, happy-go-lucky 'God' was not going to survive the implications of this passage.
Job passed the test obviously.....
God became an 'all-around Good Guy'.....
Lucifer was consigned to Hell.....
Amazing what the pen can do when commanded by the Vatican.
2006-12-15 21:27:16 · answer #1 · answered by wolf560 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. The devil screwed with Job and God won the bet because God told the devil that Job would still be faithful to him even if he didn't have everything that he currently had becuase Job was a very rich and powerful man and the devil said that that was the only reason that he honored God and once he lost everything he had Job was still faithful to God. God then gave Job everything that he had before plus more because Job was still faithful through all of his troubles.
2006-12-15 21:18:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No, it's not historically true, it's a myth, a story intended to teach and describe some truths about the human condition. It's a very ancient story: the dynamic between the "Lord"and "Satan" (as the protagonists are named in my Bible) is very different from that of later conceptions of God. It's beautifully written, though, and has profound things to say about human suffering, particularly the tendency of others to ascribe suffering to some kind of wrongdoing by the sufferer. Unfortunately many of the writers on this site do not appear to have read the book.
The Book of Job is one of my favourites from the Bible, along with Genesis, Ecclesiastes, Matthew and Romans.
I write as a gay atheist, by the way. When you learn to read with a critical mind it's much easier to see the beauty and genius of ancient writers. Gets problematic when you see it as anything other than human wisdom.
2006-12-15 23:50:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all God never tortures anyone. The Devil did all those things to Job, and would love for everyone to think that it was God. Job had a perfect understanding that the those who love God are only passing through this life. We are in this temporarily. He understood that "all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Romans 8:28. Job was faithfull through tragedy and in the end was rewarded with more than he had to begin. Losing love ones is difficult, but the christian undersatnds that those who die in Christ are just asleep till Jesus returns and a heavenly reunion takes place at that time. All the things of this world will pass away. But God is eternal. If we love Him our desires are for heavenly things, not the things of this world. These are examples to teach us these principals.
2006-12-15 21:38:21 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
That is one of the most obviously metaphorical tales in Scripture, put into the Hebrew Scriptures at a time when people were debating whether or not a person's misfortunes are the result of a sin they committed. Another metaphorical tale is Ruth, a story (perhaps based in fact) that explored the Jewish concept of racial purity---and clearly stating that, if a great great grandmother of King David was a Moabite, racial purity laws suck. Another is Jonah, swallowed by a whale. Meant to show that anyone who repents can be saved.
2016-03-29 09:08:15 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Satan does not exist, and no other beings can challenge God. It is really hard to tell when man will realize that God is the loving Father of all creatures.
If we understand voluntary acceptance of sufferings as torture, then the torture that Christ had to bear is the greatest. He received no compensation and He has no offsprings to share His glory like the descendants of Muhammad.
Let us read the sacred verses to realize the divine truth which saves us from all doubts and fears.
2006-12-15 21:27:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, not at all, pick up a copy of the Bible and read the book of Job for yourself.
God removed His restraining hand of protection from Job, and Satan proceeded to get wild and dirty with him.
The point is this, Job said, "Though He yet SLAY me, still I will trust in Him."
What you're supposed to take from the story of Job is that God's love never leaves you, even through the trials and tribulations of life. We are to put our trust in God and God alone, whether times are good or bad.
2006-12-15 21:19:57 · answer #7 · answered by Last Ent Wife (RCIA) 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No it is true that god had so much faith in joe that he knew he would never resist the devil so God told satan that job was great but it was the devil who actually tortured him
2006-12-17 04:42:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
what do you expect me to say here, "God's an evil dictator". Seriously,
God allowed Job to be tested. In a way He allowed Job a chance to defend himself against all Satan was saying against him. But in the end, God wanted to bless Job.
Because of all this torment, there is a place where God Himself comes down and Job says, "I've heard about you all my life." That tells me that it made his relationship with God all the stronger. He'd only heard about Him before, now He was actually there.
Pretty groovy. The biggest reward.
2006-12-16 00:52:09 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It wasn't a bet, but it is true, God did use the Devil to prove to Job one thing, he was a sinner and his sin was he was counting on himself. Self-righteous.
God used the Devil to betray Jesus Christ.
Look else where:
Jeremiah 51:20 Thou art my battle ax and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms
2006-12-15 21:41:20 · answer #10 · answered by readthekjv1611@sbcglobal.net 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋