Let us muslims analyze if Bible is still true words of God?

Question

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! GOD Almighty Said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.

The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Let us look at Song of Solomon 8:10 "Dear brothers, I'm a walled-in virgin still, but my breasts are full— And when my lover sees me, he knows he'll soon be satisfied."

She is a virgin with full swelling breasts. When her lover meets her, he will be satisfied from those swelling breasts! Obviously, she is referring to licking, sucking and other pornographic things that I can't mention here. Believe me this verse is not talking about them worshiping GOD Almighty together when they meet!! It is clearly and indisputably referring to graphic sex that involves her swelling breasts and other things such as intercourse.


Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts."

Praising the bed that they had sex on: Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant"

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love (i.e., semen) more than wine. How right they are to adore you!" I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.

His right arm sexually feeling her body: Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me."

Let us look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me." So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bed room to have illegal sex with him? If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.

Let us look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the daughters of Jerusalem." Why does the Bible teach young men to spend all of their time and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can possibly end in bed with them?

Answer 1

Wow. Most Muslims I've had the pleasure of talking with are much more respectful than that.

And I would ask: Who created a) the sexual urge, and b) sexual pleasures to be filled in the proper marriage arrangement.

God. So if God wants to discuss them, there is nothing wrong with that. He's not lewd in the Bible. There is nothing in those passages that are lewd. They are frank, yes. But frankness, and lewdness are two different things.

Lastly, it seems your entire "argument" or "position" has a biased position to begin with. It doesn't follow the rational, reasonable method at arriving at a logical conclusion. You're trying to MAKE the facts fit what you want it to say, rather than investigating all of the facts, providing credible references for statements, and then letting the facts fall where they may without making "Shock value" statements.

You begin by stating very blatantly. "We all obviously know" without providing any references to back up the claims that you say "must be true".

Respectfully, that is not very, shall we say . . .mature way of investigating a matter. You are showing a complete bias.

Answer 2

Well, although I haven't read those verses in context, it seems your interpretations are somewhat biased--like you are looking for verses to prove your point.

Also, all of your quotes are from the Hebrew Scriptures (the Old Testament). Unfortunately, we don't know much about the canonization of the Old Testament. At least with the New Testament, although it too might have been changed, we are somewhat educated of the canonization process.

If you believe the concept of abrogation within the Qur'an, then you couldn't you believe that God, possibly knowing the Old Testament had been changed, revealed to us the New Testament--or at least the Gospels?

And don't be so quick to dispute with "People of the Book."

Answer 3

Here is the passage in Deuteronomy you referenced.

25 he gave this command to the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD : 26 "Take this Book of the Law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God. There it will remain as a witness against you. 27 For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! 28 Assemble before me all the elders of your tribes and all your officials, so that I can speak these words in their hearing and call heaven and earth to testify against them. 29FOR I KNOW THAT AFTER MY DEATH YOU ARE SURE TO BECOME UTTERLY CORRUPT AND TO TURN FROM THE WAY I HAVE COMMANDED YOU.. In days to come, disaster will fall upon you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and provoke him to anger by what your hands have made."

The "Bible" had already been written at this point. And Moses (Peace be upon him) anticipated the "Jews" Turning from God (Almighty and most merciful,) and his statutes. AS MOST SEEM TO HAVE DONE TODAY. He mentions nothing about scribes or writings.


The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed PROPHECY. But corruption.

Jeremiah 8

1 " 'AT THAT TIME declares the LORD, the bones of the kings and officials of Judah, the bones of the priests and prophets, and the bones of the people of Jerusalem will be removed from their graves.

Jeremiah is a book of prophecy not confirmation. We see God (Almighty and most loving) warn of the wrath that will overtake his peoples turning from his will and commands.


Song of Songs, has always been not a dirty or pornographic, image.

But an image of how it is ok to express love physically to your wife. One wife. Anything physical outside of marriage is sin.
Do you see anything dirty here that you would not want in your marriage relationship?

God (Almighty and most merciful) saw that the Jews disobeyed him and were beyond hope and deserved destruction. So he sent Jesus. (Peace and thanks be upon him) He never turned from God (Most merciful). Was always with him, and in THIS SENSE was a true son. God (Most merciful) allowed his chosen one to be killed by us. Whoever believes and repents of their sin and loves God will be shown mercy, God willing.

Answer 4

First of All I am a Muslim and I dont necessarily like your approach. Yes we do believe that some concepts of the bible have been changed after wards, such as the council in 350AD actually voted on the bible. Also many Unitarians and Christians have mentioned the point that some things in the bible might have been added and they have no surety to know.

However, Muslim scholars of the past never had problem quoting the bible or the old testament to further emphasize a point, show some information e.t.c if that did not contradict with the Final Book of God, The Quran as we know it. I think the right approach is to invite the Christians to analyze their history and the recording of the bible and then if they accept it or reject it, its up to them and their business.

Answer 5

The corruption of the writings is almost inexistent. The corruption are all the weak translations and the unauthorised interpretation of the writings. If you look closely at the Bible you will find that the coming of Muhammad in the Arabic peninsula was foretold there. There were even Christian pilgrims who went to the area of Mecca at the time of the Hejirah looking for the second coming of Christ.

Answer 6

So, let me get this straight - the Bible has been corrupted - and yet, you use that very Bible to prove your point that the Bible is corrupted. That's the most circular reasoning I've seen in a while.

Answer 7

1.U don't ever have the right to judge anyones religeon
2.U believe in the first half of this bible that is like u say corrupted
3.U say how would u know....then how could u judge the purpose of these words and make ur own conclusions.
4.U really need to get a life, i guess i wont see u in heaven some day?

Answer 8

If muslims say that the bible is from God and is corrupt. Then the koran is from god and is probably corrupt also. You muslims have bi-polar disorder.

Why would God make a mistake? is he so stupid he needs to re-write his own work?

Answer 9

So your saying that your Qur'an is wrong, because it says that the Bible is true. You Muslims make no sense at all, you say Jesus is a Prophet, yet you disregard everything HE ever said. Now you want to say that the Bible is wrong when your so called Holy Book says it is true.

Answer 10

Careful. Don't analyze too close. You may find the error of your ways and have to convert, thus requireing the separation of the head from your shoulders according to your "peaceful" religion.
BTW I didn't EVEN read your question. I was afraid I would vomit on my laptop.