Questionable pits: Is "Red Nose Pit" an actual breed or just a name to up the price?

Question

Is there such a breed as a "Red Nose Pit?"
Around here it seems to be the most desired dog, I dunno if it's a redneck thing or just a thing with the lower class in general *that may be stereotyping, but every stereotype has a base and people that truly live it, and around here the stereotypical are everywhere* I say lower class because this is a small town, and not in a quaint sense of the words. It's small because there's no work, those that make the good money either comute or are drugdealers, it's neither opinion nor stereotype. But everyone seems to either have or want a "red nose pit" and I can't for the life of me find any sort of breed standard online, which leads me to beleive it isn't a breed any more than a calico cat.
I haven't seen a full grown "red nose" in person, but a friend of mine had a puppy around 6months old and it was cute as a button, but I think that of most of the "pit bull" breeds, but then they grow up and things change.
Anyways, does anybody know?

The first answer posted gave a website of a breeder, not a breed standard. There is nowhere that I can find that lists rednose pit as a breed. Breeders will sometimes say whatever it takes to make a sale.
As for what was said about pits being euthanized upon arrival at shelters, that's a load. Have you been to a shelter recently? Have you noted the fact that normally the majority of dogs and pups for adoption are "pit" mixes, and the ones that aren't listed as having pits in them deffinantly have the appearance of them?
Yeah, they're so putdown on arrival at the shelters.
And pits can be great dogs, but there are bad breeders that breed for DOGagressive behavior and many, many bad owners that beat the dogs and make them mean because that's how they want them. Knowledge is powerful, but so is ignorance. Look at how many people think pits are bad dogs? Even a few days ago I thought that way, but things can change.

Um, in the general direction of fightingpit, people are most often ignorant through missinformation, which is not near as bad as being egnorance due to plugging your ears and going "LALALA, CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"
Most of the people on this site getting horrible answers from people calling them ignorant and stupid and such don't take into account the difference between the two kinds of ignorance. It's very true, those who refuse to see are far more blind than those who can't. It's paraphrased, but the messege is the same.
I've been hit royally hard for asking a question I didn't know was wrong, people telling me that I don't deserve to own dogs and blah blah blah. Brutal honesty is different than telling someone they're an inhumane idiot for not knowing. That's like saying that a baby giving someone the finger is horribly wrong because you know that it is. Does a two month old know right and wrong? No, but their is a lot more to say about ignorance and how you're ignorant to your own.

To avoid being called stupid, I hit a wrong key in typing and in no way think ignorance is spelled with an e.

Answer 1

Yes, there is a line(not breed) of pit bull known as "rednose" .I happen to have one myself.Beautiful,smart,funny and the best companion dog that Ive ever owned.
Any dog can be be aggressive.It ALWAYS the owners responsibly to be aware of the surroundings/eventsconcerning his/her dogs.
There are countless websites to answer and educate about the breed.www.pitbulllovers.com is a good place to start.
I think perhaps most people tend to like the "rednose" because of its beautiful fawn color and the unusual golden/crystal green eyes.
Good luck in your search.

Answer 2

There are different types of pits: red nose and black nose. They are just the colors of their noses and just describes the way they look. As far as a breed standard I dont believe they are recongized by akc they are however an amarican pitbull terrier and an american stafforshire terrier, and both are simaliar. The staffies are shorter and stocker vs the other. I have a black nose pit and he is the sweetes dog ever. He was however, I must point out raised right and socialized very early and often. He is a powerful and strong dog, but so are a lot of other breeds. If you are looking at getting on just be sure to do your research and get good bloodlines and a pup from a well socialized mom and dad. Pits can be a wonderful and gentle dog if you take the time to train them right if not they can be awful just as other dogs can be, but pits are very powerful. Yes for some reason a lot of people prefer the red nose here also just a preference.

Answer 3

Had to agree with a lot of what you had to say. Personally, I have a pit that is my right hand girl with my pack, which includes cats and has included a possum and a crow. She has been my surrogate mom to a lot of motherless litters, including kittens and some wild rabbits.

In rescue we have had dogs of many breeds and mixed that were totally agressive and could not be safely rehabilitated. We do assessments on rescued "bully breeds" to determine if adoptable and safe. We have seen breeds that are normally "safe" that really wanted to kill anything and everything. This is what inbreeding and cruelty can do to any dog, irregardless of breed. We love our pits.

Yes, we have had "red nose pits" which is simply a coloration of the breed as someone else told you. The same as cocker spaniels come in different colors, etc. Blue line pits are a awesome blue silver grey and are more expensive just like the red nose pits which are a almost liver color. Certain coats in most any breed will get a higher price as the coloration is harder to breed for.

Irregardless of one's opinion on a certain breed we should all be very concerned that the right to own a certain breed is being challenged all across the US. And it is not just the pit bulls at risk!
We should all ask who decides for another person what pet can be owned and loved. especially, if that animal has NO indication of being anything but sweet, not agressive and is loved and well taken care of. Be it a pit, rott, German Shepherd, Akita, Chow, etc. There are many at risk. And being a mutt is not a guarantee as we have had a few of those go crazy on us--out of the blue with no provocation.

As long as people breed for all the wrong reasons and character traits this will be a growing problem. But who is at fault here??

Answer 4

Read the whole answer.
Stay away from pits, or at least be wary. There is a reason they are instantly euthanized when turned in to the pound (not all pounds, but many.)

I tend to believe that there are no bad dogs by breed. More than anything I believe it has more to do with the way they are raised and the people who raise them.

Certainly not all pits are bad dogs, but a bad pit is a very bad dog. Having said that, there will always be a few animals that have mental problems, just like people. My experience has been that there is a higher incidence in mental problems, or at least the ability to socialize with other animals in pits. Likely it is due to the fact that the entire breed came into existence for one reason and one reason only, to kill other animals. They were selectively bred for this purpose over generations. Having a psychotic dog makes for good dog fights, psychosis is often inherited. Need I say more?

Ok then I will. My sister has raised about 7 dogs through the years. Each was more gentle and well-behaved than the next. Then she got a pit bull, which 2 years later had to be put down for killing a neighbors dog unprovoked.

But on to the question . . . I had never heard of a "red nosed pit," but after a brief internet search I found the following link. There were plenty of others.

The Pit bull is not a recognized breed by the American Kennel Club, but it is recognized by the United Kennel Club. There is a breed standard under the UKC (last link), but not for a red-nosed pit, which is likely a smaller class of genetically differentiated pits. In the breed standards, any color of nose is acceptable.

And yes, many shelters still euthanize pits and pit mixes. At least they do here where I live.

Before railing against an answer, read the whole answer. I am relating my experiences and my own opinions. The misuse of the animals has given them a bad reputation, but I stand behind my answer.

Answer 5

Yes they are just referring to the colour of the nose. I am from the UK and I know that the colour of the nose is nothing but colouration and doesn't mean anything but most people if you have a PitBull then it is just a PitBull but if it has a red or blue nose then some people call them red or blue nose Pits trying to make is sound glamorous I think. I think that in the US when it is said to be a "Red Nose" or "Blue Nose" then people are referring to those Razors Edge hippos that some people associate with PitBull which to me is offensive and probably most people who have a proper knowledge of PitBulls.

Answer 6

try dogbreedinfo.com or the AKC website, but you will have to look up American Staffordshire Terrier, that is the real name. And i know that a red nose pit bull is not it's own BREED, just a desired color of the breed, just as blue pit bulls are desired. And yeah, they do jack up the price on red nose pit bulls because they aren't the most common, and there is a big demand for them.

Answer 7

Just a color of Pit Bull. Like a Yellow Labrador, versus a Black or Chocolate. They are not a different "breed", by any means, and I don't see why their color alone would make them any more or less valuable.

Scroll down on the following link to see this addressed:
http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

More discussion of colors:
http://www.pitbullregistry.com/pitbullpictures.htm

Answer 8

Actually, "Red Nose Pits" are not a breed...

I even had someone tell me that they have an "Hawaiin Pit Bull."

It's like people who think "Blue pits" are rare...

You are right...it isn't any more of a breed than a calico cat!


http://www.libertydogtraining.com

Answer 9

Mandy, this site will answer your question.
www.oldfamilyreds.com/oldfamilyredhistory.htm


Trueangel - Red nose is not a breed but a strain.

51- The only mental problems concerning APBT`s are with most of the owners and people ignorant about them. You need to do some heavy research.

Answer 10

I use to date a guy that breeded pit`s and..........The name " Red Nose Pit" is no such thing...that is just so those ppl can up the price.